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A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that…A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that…
A trial of the new-church way in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.A tryall of the nevv-church vvay in New-England and in old ... by that learned and godly minister of Christ, John Ball of Whitmore ; penned a little before his death and sent over to the New England ministers, anno 1637, as a reply to an answer of theirs in justification of the said positions ... ; now published ... by William Rathband and Simeon Ash.
London: printed by T. Paine and M. Simmons for Thomas Underhill, 1644
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Reply.
Sufficient hath been spoken of the meaning of the position and the grounds thereof and if we have not mistaken your judgment & practice both, you have born witness against both that you call the rigid separation, and this more moderate also; And we humbly wish, the moderate do not degenerate into the rigid ere long. It is very strange, if they take not great encouragement upon your grounds. The truth of our ministry, Churches, Ordinances, and calling is questioned, and where men will stay the Lord knoweth, and what more common then that our Liturgy is unlawful, because it is the devise of man; The Author (or publisher at least) of a letter against our Service book beginneth with such like distinction.
SUfficient hath been spoken of the meaning of the position and the grounds thereof and if we have not mistaken your judgment & practice both, you have born witnesse against both that you call the rigid seperation, and this more moderate also; And we humbly wish, the moderate doe not degenerate into the rigid ere long. It is very strange, if they take not great incouragement upon your grounds. The truth of our ministery, Churches, Ordinances, and calling is questioned, and where men will stay the Lord knoweth, and what more common then that our Liturgie is unlawfull, because it is the devise of man; The Author (or publisher at least) of a letter against our Service booke beginneth with such like distinction.
Against this Prayer-book (saith he) divers have pleaded in a different manner. First some arguments are proper to the Separatists qua tales, viz. that it is offered in a false Church; 2. By a false minister; 3. In the behalf of the subjects of the Kingdom of Antichrist. These are properly theirs, being the grounds whereupon they make a total separation from all the Churches in this Land, as no Churches of Christ. These I approve not, yet note them that ye may see