Bains. My Lord, Concerning any thing that came from Scotland, I never knew any thing, nor did I ever hear any thing; for Dowgate, J was at two meetings at Dowgate; At the first meeting, there was a person that J did not know, which at the second meeting, J was told was Captain Titus, and he at that meeting (where there was nine, or ten, or more, or thereabouts,) he did propose some thing to be done in order to the restoring or preserving the Presbyterian Interest by way of application to the King, as he called him, and did advise it to be by way of petition, and that he conceived to be the only way to preserve the Presbyterian Interest in England; and that way would be the way to assure him, he had a considerable party in England; and he did use many arguments, as a duty lying upon us by our Covenant, to apply our selves to him, and he offered to draw up a draught of a petition against the next meeting to that purpose: and he said, it was necessary some thing should be done by some Parliament men, and some Ministers, and some Citizens, that were leading men, men that thereby he might be assured that he had a party, and that considerable. At the next meeting, which was suddenly after, he did produce a paper, which, as J remember, was in short hand; a petition, which was to the purpose J have hinted. There were several debates, whether it should be signed, or not signed, and my self, and two more before disliked it; and before he read the paper, he began to commend the good nature of the King, what good affections he had, and likewise did say, there was a necessity something should be done to the Queen, and Jermine, and Percy; who he said, were our friends, that they should stir him up to comply with the Scotch Commissioners; and upon this there was my self, and two more there present, (I hope it sate upon them, as upon my self) disliked the business, and from that time for my own part, I never heard any thing; the heads of the Petition I cannot suddenly remember. This paper carries the sum and substance of the business.
Bains. My Lord, Concerning any thing that came from Scotland, I never knew any thing, nor did I ever hear any thing; for Dowgate, J was at two meetings at Dowgate; At the first meeting, there was a person that J did not know, which at the second meeting, J was told was Captain Titus, and he at that meeting (where there was nine, or ten, or more, or thereabouts,) he did propose some thing to be done in order to the restoring or preserving the Presbyterian Jnterest by way of application to the King, as he called him, and did advise it to be by way of petition, and that he conceived to be the onely way to preserve the Presbyterian Jnterest in England; and that way would be the way to assure him, he had a considerable party in England; and he did use many arguments, as a duty lying upon us by our Covenant, to apply our selves to him, and he offered to draw up a draught of a petition against the next meeting to that purpose: and he said, it was necessary some thing should be done by some Parliament men, and some Ministers, and some Citizens, that were leading men, men that thereby he might be assured that he had a party, and that considerable. At the next meeting, which was suddenly after, he did produce a paper, which, as J remember, was in short hand; a petition, which was to the purpose J have hinted. There were severall debates, whether it should be signed, or not signed, and my selfe, and two more before disliked it; and before he read the paper, he began to commend the good nature of the King, what good affections he had, and likewise did say, there was a necessity something should be done to the Queen, and Jermine, and Piercy; who he said, were our friends, that they should stir him up to comply with the Scotch Commissioners; and upon this there was my selfe, and two more there present, (I hope it sate upon them, as upon my selfe) disliked the businesse, and from that time for my own part, I never heard any thing; the heads of the Petition I cannot suddenly remember. This paper carries the sum and substance of the businesse.
