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Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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1This sentence being published by the Bishop of Lincoln, M. Ridley was committed as a prisoner to the Major, and immediately M. Latimer was sent for: but in the mean season the Carpet or cloth which lay upon the table whereat M. Ridley stood, was removed, because (as men reported) M. Latimer had never the degree o• a Doctor as M. Ridley had. But eftsoons as M. Latimer appeared as he did the day before, perceiving no cloth upon the table, laid his hat, which was an old felt under his elbows, and immediately spake to the Commissioners, saying:
1THis sentence beyng published by the Bishop of Lincolne, M. Ridley was committed as a prisoner to the Maior, and immediatly M. Latimer was sent for: but in the meane season the Carpet or cloth whiche lay vpon the table whereat M. Ridley stode, was remoued, because (as men reported) M. Latimer had neuer the degree o• a Doctor as M. Ridley had. But eftsones as M. Latimer appeared as he did the day before, perceiuyng no cloth vpon the table, layde his hat, which was an olde felte vnder his elbowes, and immediatly spake to the Commissioners, saying:
Lati My Lords, I beseech your Lordships to set a better order here at your entrance: for I am an old man and have a very evil back, so that the press of the multitude doth me much harm.
Lati My Lordes, I beseech your Lordships to set a better order here at your entraunce: for I am an olde man and haue a very euill backe, so that the presse of the multitude doth me much harme.
Linc. I am sorry M. Latimer for your hurt. At your departure we will see to better order. With that M. Latimer thanked his Lordship, making a very low courtesy. After this the Bishop of Lincoln began on this manner.
Linc. I am sory M. Latimer for your hurt. At your departure we will see to better order. With that M. Latimer thanked his Lordshyp, making a very low curtesie. After this the Bishop of Lincolne began on this manner.
Linc. M. Latimer, although yesterday after we had taken your answers to those Articles which we proposed, might have justly proceeded to judgement against you,1 especially in that you required the same, yet we having a good hope of your returning, desiring not your destruction, but rather that you would recant, revoke your errors, and turn to the Catholic Church, differed farther process till this day, and now according to the appointment, we have called you here before us, to hear whether you are content to revoke your heretical assertions, and submit your self to the determination of the Church, as we most heartily desire, and I for my part, as I did yesterday, most earnestly do exhort you, either to know whether you persevere still the man that you were, for the which we would be sorry. It seemed that the Bishop would have farther proceeded, saving that M. Latimer interrupted him, saying:
Linc. M. Latimer, although yesterday after we had taken your aunsweres to those Articles whiche we proposed, might haue iustly proceeded to iudgement against you,1 especially in that you required the same, yet we hauyng a good hope of your returning, desiring not your destruction, but rather that you woulde recant, reuoke your errours, and turne to the Catholicke Church, differred farther processe tyll this day, and now accordyng to the appoyntment, we haue called you here before vs, to heare whether you are content to reuoke your hereticall assertions, and submitte your selfe to the determination of the Church, as we most hartely desire, and I for my part, as I did yesterday, most earnestly doe exhort you, eyther to know whether you perseuer still the man that you were, for the which we would be sory. It seemed that the Bishop woulde haue farther proceeded, sauyng that M. Latimer interrupted hym, saying:
Lati. Your Lordship often doth repeat the Catholic Church, as though I should deny the same. No my Lord,1 I confess there is a Catholic Church, to the determination of the which I will stand, but not the Church which you call Catholic, which sooner might be termed diabolic. And where as you join together the Romish and Catholic Church, stay there I pray you. For it is an •ther thing to say Romish Church, and an other thing to say Catholic Church:2 I must use here in this mine answer the counsel of Cyprianus, who at what time he was ascited before certain Bishops that gave him leave to take deliberation and counsel to try and examine his opinion, he answered them thus: in sticking and persevering in the truth, there must no counsel, nor delibera, tion be taken. And again being demanded of them sitting in judgement, which was most like to be of y• Church of Christ, either he which was persecuted, either they which did persecute: Christ, said he, hath foreshowed, that he that doth follow him, must take up his cross and follow him. Christ gave knowledge that the disciples should have persecution and trouble. Howe think you then my Lords, is it like that the sea of Rome,3 which hath been a continual persecutor, is rather the Church, or that swal flock which hath continually ben persecuted of it even to death? Also the flock of Christ hath ben but few in comparison to the residue, and ever in subjection: which he proved, beginning at No•s time even to the Apostles.
Lati. Your Lordship often doth repeate the Catholike Church, as though I should deny the same. No my Lord,1 I confesse there is a Cotholicke Church, to the determination of the which I will stande, but not the Churche which you call Catholicke, which soner might be termed diabolike. And where as you ioyne together the Romish and Catholicke Church, stay there I pray you. For it is an •ther thing to say Romish Church, and an other thing to say Catholicke Church:
Linc. Your cause and S. Cyprian's is not one, but clean contrary, for he suffered persecution for Christs sake and the Gospel: but you are in trouble for your errors and false assertions, contrary to the word of God, and the received trueth of the Church.
Linc. Your cause and S. Cyprians is not one, but cleane contrary, for he suffered persecution for Christes sake and the Gospell: but you are in trouble for your errours and false assertions, contrary to the worde of God, and the receiued trueth of the Church.
Lati. M. Latimer interrupting him, said: yes verily,1 my cause is as good as S. Cyprian's: for his was for the word of God and so is mine. But Lincoln goeth forth in his talk. Also at the beginning and foundation of the Church, it could not be but that the Apostles should suffer great persecution. Further, before Christs coming, continually there were very few which truly served God: but after his coming began the time of grace, then began the Church to increase, and was continually augmented until that it came unto this perfection,2 and now hath justly that jurisdiction which the unchristian Princes before by tyranny did resist: there is a diverse consideration of the estate of the Church now in the time of grace, and before Christs coming. But Master Latimer, although we had instructions given us determinately to take your answer to such Articles as we should propose, without any reasoning or disputations, yet we hoping by talk somewhat to prevail with you, appointed you to appear before us yesterday in the Divinity School, a place for disputations. And whereas then notwithstanding you had licence to say ⟨p. 1767⟩your mind, and were answered to every matter, yet you could not be brought from your errors. We thinking that from that time ye would with good advisement consider your state, gave you respite from that time yesterday when we dismissed you,3 until this time, and now have called you again here in this place, by your answers to learn whether you are the same man you were then or no? Therefore we will propose unto you the same articles which we did then, and require of you a determinate answer, without farther reasoning, and eftsoons recited the first article.
Lati. M. Latimer interruptyng hym, sayd: yes verely,1 my cause is as good as S. Cyprians: for his was for the worde of God and so is myne. But Lincolne goeth forth in his talke. Also at the beginnyng and foundation of the Churche, it coulde not be but that the Apostles shoulde suffer great persecution. Further, before Christes commyng, continually there were very fewe whiche truely serued God: but after his commyng beganne the tyme of grace, then beganne the Churche to encrease, and was continually augmented vntyll that it came vnto this perfection,
Lati. Always my protestation saved, that by these mine answers it should not be thought that I did condescend and agree to your Lordships authority in that you are legated by authority of the Pope, so that thereby I might seem to consent to his jurisdiction, to the first article I answer now as I did yesterday, that in the Sacrament the worthy receiver receiveth the very body of Christ, and drinketh his blood by spirit and grace. But after that corporal being which the Romish Church prescribeth, Christs body & blood is not in the Sacrament under the forms of bread and wine. The Notaries toke his answer to be affirmatively. For the second article,1 he referred himself to his answers made before.
Lati. Alwayes my protestation saued, that by these mine answeres it should not be thought that I did condescend and agree to your Lordshippes authority in that you are legased by authoritie of the Pope, so that thereby I might seeme to consent to his iurisdiction, to the fyrst article I aunswere now as I did yesterday, that in the Sacrament the worthy receyuer receiueth the very body of Christ, and drinketh his bloud by spirite and grace. But after that corporall being which the Romish Church prescribeth, Christes body & bloud is not in the Sacrament vnder the formes of bread and wine. The Notaries toke his aunswere to be affirmatiuely. For the seconde article,1 he referred hymselfe to his aunsweres made before.
Linc. After this the Bishop of Lincoln recited the third article, and required a determinate answer.
Linc. After this the Bishop of Lincolne recited the third article, and required a determinate aunswere.
Lat. Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice, neither needeth there to be any other, neither can there be any other propitiatory sacrifice. The Notaries took his answer to be affirmatively. In like manner did he answer to the other articles, not varying from his answers made the day before. After his answers were penned of the Notaries, and the Bishop of Lincoln had exhorted him in like sort to recant as he did M. Ridley, and revoke his errors and false assertions, and M. Latimer had answered that he ne could,1 ne would deny his master Christ and his verity, the Bishop of Lincoln desired M. Latimer to hearken to him, and then master Latimer hearkening for some new matter and other talk, the Bishop of Lincoln red his condemnation, after the publication of the which, the said three Bishops brake up their Sessions, and dismissed the audience. But M. Latimer required the Bishop to perform his promise,2 in saying the day before, that he should have licence briefly to declare the causes why he refused the Popes authority.
Lat. Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sinnes of the whole worlde, and that a perfecte sacrifice, neyther needeth there to be any other, neyther can there be any other propitiatory sacrifice. The Notaries tooke his aunsweare to bee affirmatiuely. In like maner did he aunswere to the other articles, not varying from his aunsweres made the day before. After his aunsweres were penned of the Notaries, and the Bishop of Lincolne had exhorted him in like sort to recant as he dyd M. Ridley, and reuoke his errours and false assertions, and M. Latimer had aunswered that he ne could,1 ne would deny his maister Christ and his veritie, the Bishop of Lincolne desired M. Latimer to harken to him, and then maister Latimer harkening for some new matter and other talke, the Byshop of Lincolne red his condemnation, after the publication of the which, the sayd three Bishops brake vp their Sessions, and dimissed the audience. But M. Latimer required the Bishop to performe his promyse,2 in saying the daye before, that he shoulde haue licence briefly to declare the causes why he refused the Popes authoritie.
Lincol. But the Bishop said, that now he could not hear him, neither ought to talk with him.
Lincol. But the Byshop sayde, that now he coulde not heare hym, neither ought to talke with hym.
Then M. Latimer asked him whether it were not lawful for him to appeal from this his judgement. And the Bishop asked him again, to whom he would appeal. To the next general Council, quoth M. Latimer, which shall be truly called is Gods name.1 With that appellation the Bishop was content: but he said it would be a long season before such a convocation as he meant would be called.
Then M. Latimer asked hym whether it were not lawfull for him to appeale from this his iudgement. And the Byshop asked hym againe, to whom he would appeale. To the next generall Counsell, quoth M. Latimer, whiche shalbe truely called is Gods name.1 With that appellation the Byshop was content: but he sayd it woulde be a long season before suche a conuocation as he ment would be called.
Then the Bishop committed M. Latimer to the Major, saying: now he is your prisoner master Major. Because the press of people was not yet diminished, each man looking for farther process, the Bishop of Lincoln commanded avoidance, and willed M. Latimer to tarry till the press were diminished lest he should take hurt at his egression, as he did at his entrance. And so continued Bishop Ridley, and M. Latimer in durance till the .16. day of the said month of October.
Then the Byshop committed M. Latimer to the Maior, saying: now he is your prisoner maister Maior. Because the presse of people was not yet diminished, ech man lookyng for farther processe, the Byshop of Lincolne commaunded auoydance, and willed M. Latimer to tary tyl the presse were diminished lest he shoulde take hurt at his egression, as he did at his entraunce. And so continued Byshop Ridley, and M. Latimer in durance till the .16. day of the sayd moneth of October.
