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Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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1John Newman was first apprehended in Kent, dwelling in the town of Maidstone, and there was examined before D. Thornton Suffragan, and others, at Tenterden. From thence he was brought to Boner, and there condemned with M. Denley and Pachyngham, and burned at Saffron Walden, as is before storied. But because his examinations and answers before the Suffragan came not then to my hands, I thought here in this place to bestow them, rather then they should utterly be suppressed. And first what his answer was, by writing to the said Suffragan, after his apprehension, you shall hear by the tenor of his own words as follow.
1IOhn Newman was first apprehended in Kente, dwelling in the towne of Maydestone, and there was examined before D. Thornton Suffragan, and others, at Tenterden. From thence he was brought to Boner, and there condemned with M. Denley and Pachyngham, and burned at Saffron Walden, as is before storyed. But because his examinations and aunsweres before the Suffragan came not then to my handes, I thought here in this place to bestow them, rather then they shuld vtterly be suppressed. And first what his aunswere was, by writing to the sayd Suffragan, after his apprehension, you shall heare by the tenour of his owne wordes as follow.
1IT may please you to understand, that for the space of all the time of king Edwards reign, we were diligently instructed with continual sermons made by such men whose faith, wisdom, learning, and virtuous living, was commended unto all men, under the kings hand and seal, and under the hands of the whole Council. These men taught diligently a long time, persuading us by the allegations of Gods word, that there was no transubstantiation, nor corporal presence in the sacrament. Their doctrine was not believed of us suddenly, but by their continual preaching: and also by our continual prayer unto god that we might never be deceived, but if it were true that GOD would incline our hearts unto it: and if it were not true, that we might never believe it.
1IT may please you to vnderstande, that for the space of all the time of king Edwardes raigne, we were dilligently instructed with continuall sermons made by such men whose faythe, wysedome, learning, and vertuous liuing, was commended vnto all men, vnder the kinges hande and seale, and vnder the handes of the whole Counsell. These men taught dilligently a long tyme, perswading vs by the allegations of Gods word, that there was no transubstantiation, nor corporall presence in the sacrament. Their doctrine was not beleued of vs sodainly, but by their cō tinuall preaching: and also by our continuall prayer vnto god that we might neuer be deceiued, but if it were true that GOD would incline our hartes vnto it: and if it were not true, that wee might neuer beleue it.
We weighed that they laboured with Gods word, and we asked the advise of our friends: neither could we find that they preached false doctrine. We considered also, as we did learn, that the kings Grace and his Council, and the most part of all the whole realm, believed as they taught, because no man preached the contrary. Also we know that the preachers were commanded by the king and the laws of the Realm, to preach unto us such doctrine, as was to the authority of Gods word, agreeable and no other. And by their diligent setting forth of it, by the kings commandment, and the whole consent of the whole Council, and by the authority of the Parliament, we embraced it, and received it, as a very infallible trueth taught unto us, for the space of vii. years. Wherefore, until such time as our consciences are otherwise taught and instructed by Gods word we cannot with safeguard of our consciences, take it, as many suppose at this time. And we trust in God that the Queens merciful highness, neither yet her most honourable Council will in a matter of faith use compulsion, nor violence, because faith is the gift of God, and cometh not of man, neither of mans laws, neither at such time as men require it, but at such time as God giveth it.
We wayed that they laboured with Gods word, and we asked the aduise of our frendes: neyther could wee finde that they preached false doctrine. We considered also, as wee did learne, that the kinges Grace and his Counsell, and the most part of al the whole realme, beleued as they taught, because no man preached the contrary. Also we knowe that the preachers were commaunded by the king and the lawes of the Realme, to preach vnto vs such doctrine, as was to the authoritie of Gods word, agreable and no other. And by their dilligent setting forthe of it, by the kinges commaundemente, and the whole consent of the whole Counsell, and by the authoritie of the Parliament, we embrased it, and receiued it, as a very infallible trueth taught vnto vs, for the space of vii. yeares. Wherefore, vntill such time as our consciences are otherwise taught and instructed by Gods word we cannot with safegard of our consciences, take it, as manye suppose at this time. And we trust in God that the Queenes mercifull highnesse, neither yet her most honourable Counsell will in a matter of fayth vse compulsion, nor violence, because faythe is the gift of God, and commeth not of man, neyther of mannes lawes, neyther at such time as men require it, but at such time as God geueth it.
First, one of the Doctors, or one of the Bench, either the Archdeacon, or Fauced, or some other,1 whose name John Newman doth not express, beginneth asking in this wise.
FIrst, one of the Doctours, or one of the Benche, eyther the Archdeacon, or Fauced, or some other,1 whose name Iohn Newman doth not expresse, beginneth asking in this wise.
Doctor. How say ye to this? This is my body which is given for you.
Doctor. How say ye to this? This is my body whiche is geuen for you.
Newman. It is a figurative speech, one thing spoken, and an other meant, as Christ saith: I am a vine, I am a door, I am a stone, &c. Is he therefore a material stone, a vine, or a door?
Newman. It is a figuratiue speach, one thing spoken, and an other ment, as Christ sayth: I am a vine, I am a dore, I am a stone, &c. Is hee therefore a materiall stone, a vine, or a dore?
Doct. This is no figurative speech. For he saith: This is my body which is given for you, & so saith he not of the stone vine, or door: but that is a figurative speech.
Doct. This is no figuratiue speache. For he sayth: This is my body which is geuen for you, & so sayth he not of the stone vyne, or dore: but that is a figuratiue speach.
New. Christ saith, this cup is the new Testament in my blood. 1If ye will have it so meant, then let them take and eat the Cup.
New. Christ sayth, this cup is the new Testament in my bloud. 1If ye will haue it so meant, then let them take and eate the Cup.
Doct. Nay, that is not so meant, so it is a common phrase of speech among our selves: we say to our friend, drink a cup of drink, and yet we mean he should drink the drink in the cup.
Doct. Nay, that is not so meant, so it is a common phrase of speache among our selues: we say to our friende, drinke a cup of drinke, and yet we meane hee shoulde drinke the drinke in the cup.
New. Why if we will have the one so understood, ye must so understand the other.
New. Why if we will haue the one so vnderstoode, ye must so vnderstande the other.
Doct. Nay, it is a common use of speech, to say drink a cup of Ale, or Beer? And therefore it is no figurative speech.
Doct. Nay, it is a common vse of speach, to say drynke a cup of Ale, or Beere? And therefore it is no figuratiue speache.
New. The often using of a thing doth not make that thing otherwise then it is:1 but where soever one thing is spoken and an other meant, it is a figurative speech.
New. The often vsing of a thing doth not make that thing otherwise then it is:1 but where soeuer one thing is spoken and an other ment, it is a figuratiue speach.
Doct. Well, we will not stand here about. Howe say ye by the real presence? Is not christs natural body there that was borne of the virgin Mary?
Doct. Well, we will not stand here about. Howe say ye by the reall presence? Is not christes naturall body there that was borne of the virgine Mary?
New. No, I do not so believe, neither can I so believe: for the soul of man doth not feed upon natural things, as the body doth.
New. No, I do not so beleue, neither can I so beleeue: for the soule of man doth not feede vpon naturall thinges, as the body doth.
