Five disputations of church-government and worship

Sect. 17. Its known that the English Bishops (as Grotius himself affirmeth) were chosen by the King according to the custom here, the Chapter being shadows in the business: And if the King may make Bishops, he may make Presbyters; and then Ordination is unnecessary. But if you say that the Consecrators make them Bishops, and not the Kings Election, then Rome had many Bishops at once, when ever three or four Popes were consecrated at once (which mars all succession thence derived,) and then if some Bishops consecrate one, and some another, both are true Bishops of one Diocese, and many Pastors may be thus Ordained to one Church.

Sect. 17. Its known that the English Bishops (as Grotius himself affirmeth) were chosen by the King according to the custom here, the Chapter being shadows in the business: And if the King may make Bishops, he may make Presbyters; and then Ordination is unnecessary. But if you say that the Consecrators make them Bishops, and not the Kings Election, then Rome had many Bishops at once, when ever three or four Popes were consecrated at once (which marrs all succession thence dirived,) and then if some Bishops consecrate one, and some another, both are true Bishops of one Diocess, and many Pastors may be thus Ordained to one Church.

Sect. 18. And it concerneth us before we become their subjects, to have some credible Evidence that they are so Orthodox, as to be capable of the place. And the rather because that some that are suspected to be Bishops (how truly I know not) have given cause of some suspicion: Either by writing against Original sin, or by owning Grotius's Religion, (which what it was I have showed elsewhere,) or by unchurching the Protestant Churches, and Nullifying their Ministry that have not their kind of Ordination, while they take the Roman Ordination to be Valid, and their Church and Ministry to be true, with other such like.

Sect. 18. And it concerneth us before we become their subjects, to have some credible Evidence that they are so Orthodox, as to be capable of the place. And the rather because that some that are suspected to be Bishops (how truly I know not) have given cause of some suspicion: Either by writing against Original sin, or by owning Grotius's Religion, (which what it was I have shewed elsewhere,) or by unchurching the Protestant Churches, and Nullifying their Ministry that have not their kind of Ordination, while they take the Roman Ordination to be Valid, and their Church and Ministry to be true, with other such like.