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Five disputations of church-government and worship

Name: Five disputations of church-government and worship
Author: Richard Baxter

Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter.

Richard Baxter 1615–1691London: printed by R.W. for Nevil Simmons, 1659

[10], 38, [10], 24, 492 p. · 215k words · Wing B1267 · ESTC R13446

Title page: Princeton Theological Seminary Library copy, digitized by the Internet Archive (opens the Internet Archive in a new tab)

Assert. Those who nullify our present Ministry and Churches, which… › Chapter 7: The Ordination used now in England and in other Protestant Churches, is Valid, and agree…Assert. Those who nullifie our present Ministry and Churches, which… › Chapter 7: The Ordination used now in England and in other Protestant Churches, is Valid, and agre…

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Sect. 27. Argument 9. If Bishops and Presbyters (as commonly distinguished) do differ only Gradu, non Ordine, in Degree and not in Order, (that is, as being not of a distinct office, but of a more honourable Degree in the same office) then is the Ordination of Presbyters valid, though without a Bishop (of that higher Degree) But the Antecedent is true: therefore so is the Consequent. The Antecedent is maintained by abundance of the Papists themselves; much more by Protestants. The reason of the Consequence is, because ad ordinem pertinet ordinary. Being of the same office, they may do the same work. This Argument Bishop Usher gave me to prove that the Ordination of mere Presbyters without a Prelate is valid, when I asked him his Judgement of it.

Sect. 27. Argument 9. If Bishops and Presbyters (as commonly distinguished) do differ only Gradu, non Ordine, in Degree and not in Order, (that is, as being not of a distinct office, but of a more honourable Degree in the same office) then is the Ordination of Presbyters valid, though without a Bishop (of that higher Degree) But the Antecedent is true: therefore so is the Consequent. The Antecedent is maintained by abundance of the Papists themselves; much more by Protestants. The reason of the Consequence is, because ad ordinem pertinet ordinar•. Being of the same office, they may do the same work. This A•gument Bishop Vsher gave me to prove that the Ordination of meer Presbyters without a Prelate is valid, when I askt him his Judgement of it.

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Sect. 28. Argument 10. If the Prelates and the Laws they went by did allow and require mere Presbyters to Ordain, then must they grant us that they have the Power of Ordination: But the Antecedent is true, as is well known in the Laws, and common Practice of the Prelates in Ordaining: divers Presbyters laid on hands together with the Bishop: and it was not the Bishop but his Chaplain commonly that examined and approved: usually the Bishop came forth, and laid his hands on men that he never saw before, or spoke to, but took them as he found them presented to him by his Chaplain: so that Presbyters Ordained ⟨p. 207⟩

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