The grand debate between the most reverend bishops and the Presbyterian divines appointed by…

Reply. If it be blameless, no man can justly except against it; But that de facto the Romanists never charged it with any positive errors, is an Assertion that maketh them reformed, and reconcilable to us, beyond all belief: Is not the very using it in our own Tongue a positive error in their account? Is it no positive error in the Papists account, that we profess [to receive these Creatures of Bread and Wine?] do they think we have no positive error in our Catechism about the Sacraments, that affirmeth it to be Bread and Wine after the Consecration, ⟨p. 65⟩and makes but two Sacraments necessary? &c.] 2. And unless we were nearlier agreed than we are, it seemeth to us no commendation of a Liturgy, that the Papists charge it with no positive error. 3. That no Divines, or private men at home, or of Foreign Churches [that ever found fault with the Liturgy, are such to whom the name of Protestant properly belongeth] is an assertion that proveth not what authority of judging your Brethren you have, but what you assume, and commendeth your Charity no more than it commendeth the Papists, that they deny us to be Catholics. Calvin and Bucer subscribed the Augustine Confession, and so have others that have found fault with our Liturgy. 4. If any of us have blamed it to the people, it is but with such a sort of blame, as we have here expressed against it to your selves; And whether it be [unlawful, and sinful] the impartial comparing of your words with ours, will help the willing Reader to discern. But if we prove indeed that it is [defective and faulty, that you bring for an Offering to God] when you or your Neighbours have a better, which you will not bring, nor suffer them that would (Mal. 1. 13.) and that you call evil good in justifying its blemishes, which in humble modesty we besought you to amend, or excuse us from offering, then God will better judge of the unlawful act than you have done. But you have not proved, that all, or most of us, have caused the people at all to dislike it; if any of us have, yet weigh our Argument, though from the present state of affairs: