The grand debate between the most reverend bishops and the Presbyterian divines appointed by…

Repl. But is there not a very great difference between the Titles, given to the whole Church (as you say from the greater part; as the truth is from the better part, though it were the less) and the Titles given to Individual members, where there is no such reason? we call the Field a Corn field, though there be much Tares in it, because of the better part, which denominateth: But we will not call every one of these Tares by the name of Corn. when we speak of the Church, we will call it holy, as Paul doth: But when we speak to Simon Magus, we will not call him holy, but say (Thou art in the gall of bitterness, and the bond of Iniquity, and hast no part or lot in this matter, &c.) We will not persuade the people that every notorious Drunkard, Fornicator, Worldling, &c. that is buried as a Brother, of whose Resurrection to life Eternal, we have sure and certain hope, and all because you will not Excommunicate them. We are glad to hear of your desire of such Discipline: But when shall we see more than desire: and the edge of it be turned from those that fear sinning, to those that fear it not.

Repl. But is there not a very great difference between the Titles, given to the whole Church (as you say from the greater part; as the truth is from the better part, though it were the lesse) and the Titles given to Individual members, where there is no such reason? we call the Field a Corn field, though there be much Tares in it, because of the better part, which denominateth: But we will not call every one of these Tares by the name of Corn. when we speak of the Church, we will call it holy, as Paul doth: But when we speak to Simon Magus, we will not call him holy, but say (Thou art in the gall of bitternesse, and the bond of Iniquity, and hast no part or lot in this matter, &c.) We will not perswade the people that every notorious Drunkard, Fornicator, Worldling, &c. that is burried as a Brother, of whose Resurtection to life Eternal, we have sure and certain hope, and all because you will not Excommunicate them. We are glad to hear of your desire of such Discipline: But when shall we see more than desire: and the edge of it be turned from those that fear sinning, to those that fear it not.