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The grand debate between the most reverend bishops and the Presbyterian divines appointed by…
The grand debate between the most reverend bishops and the Presbyterian divines appointed by His Sacred Majesty as commissioners for the review and alteration of the Book of common prayer, &c. : being an exact account of their whole proceedings : the most perfect copy.
London printed : s.n., 1661
THE PAPERS That passed between the COMMISSIONERS Appointed by His M… › PRIVATE BAPTISM. › Reply
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[Repl. Do you not say in the Rubr. (And let them not doubt, but the Child so baptized is lawfully and sufficiently baptized, and ought not to be ⟨p. 134⟩baptized again). And after (I certify you that in this case all is well done, &c.) And yet you do not renew all the Baptismal Covenant, renouncing the flesh, &c. and engaging into the Christian belief; And that you may see that the Church of England taketh not all Infants infallibly to be regenerated by Baptism (unless you grant that they repent to the substance of Baptism) the Baptismal prayer is here used, for the fore-baptized, [that God will give his holy Spirit to this Infant, that he being born again, and made heir of everlasting Salvation, &c.] which showeth that he is now supposed to be Regenerandus, non regeneratus. Do they pray for his Regeneration, whom they account regenerate already? You must either confess that there they repeat much of the substance of Baptism, and take the Child as not baptized, or else that they take the baptized Child to be not-regenerate. And then we may well take them for unregenerate, that show no signs of it, at years of discretion, but live a carnal and ungodly life, though they can say the Catechism, and seek Confirmation.
[Repl. Do you not say in the Rubr. (And let them not doubt, but the Child so baptized is lawfully and sufficiently baptized, and ought not to be ⟨p. 134⟩baptized again). And after (I certify you that in this case all is well done, &c.) And yet you do not renew all the Baptismal Covenant, renouncing the flesh, &c. and ingaging into the Christian belief; And that you may see that the Church of England taketh not all Infants infallibly to be regenerated by Baptism (unlesse you grant that they repent to the substance of Baptism) the Baptismal prayer is here used, for the fore-baptized, [that God will give his holy Spirit to this Infant, that he being born again, and made heir of everlasting Salvation, &c.] which sheweth that he is now supposed to be Regenerandus, non regeneratus. Do they pray for his Regeneration, whom they account regenerate already? You must either confess that there they repeat much of the substance of Baptism, and take the Child as not baptized, or else that they take the baptized Child to be not-regenerate. And then we may well take them for unregnerate, that shew no signs of it, at years of discretion, but live a carnal and ungodly life, though they can say the Catechism, and seek Confirmation.