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A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible…A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible…
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shepherd, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-College in Cambridge, and late pastor of Cambridge in New-England.A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shephard, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-Colledge in Cambridge, and late pastour of Cambridge in New-England.
London: printed by E. Cotes for Andrew Crooke, 1652
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and that if they had seen and discovered the evil of them, they ought, and we believe would have abstained from divers ordinances in regard of the corrupt administrations of them; yea after all means used to purge them out, and not prevailing, they ought and would have withdrawn themselves to more pure Churches, or erected such amongst themselves.
and that if they had seene and discovered the evill of them, they ought, and we beleeve would have abstained from divers ordinances in regard of the corrupt administrations of them; yea after all meanes used to purge them out, and not prevailing, they ought and would have withdrawn themselves to more pure Churches, or erected such amongst themselves.
Reply. The prayers of the Ministers conceived or stinted in a set form be not his private prayers, but the public prayers of the assembly; but you will not say the people ought not to join with their pastor therein if ought be amiss, for matter, manner, or both.
Reply. The prayers of the Ministers conceived or stinted in a set forme bee not his private prayers, but the publike prayers of the assembly; but you will not say the people ought not to joyn with their pastour therein if ought bee amisse, for matter, manner, or both.
Answ. There is a wide difference between the whole Liturgy, so imposed, and so clogged, as is before showed: and such prayers of the Minister having something amiss. But you may put the case so, as it would be unlawful for people to join in such prayers also: as if the Minister for matter usually pray to Saints, for manner, turn himself, and fix his eye on a Crucifix.
Answ. There is a wide difference betweene the whole Liturgie, so imposed, and so clogged, as is before shewed: and such prayers of the Minister having something amisse. But you may put the case so, as it would bee unlawfull for people to joyne in such prayers also: as if the Minister for matter usually pray to Saints, for manner, turne himselfe, and fix his eye on a Crucifix.