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A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible…A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible…
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shepherd, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-College in Cambridge, and late pastor of Cambridge in New-England.A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shephard, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-Colledge in Cambridge, and late pastour of Cambridge in New-England.
London: printed by E. Cotes for Andrew Crooke, 1652
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Answ. This consideration shines with such clearness, that an impartial eye may easily see that the truth by sundry diverticula is rather clouded, then the argument fairly answered. This second proposition being too plain to be denied, interpretations are sought, but they are rather objections, to which we shall answer in order. First, though we grant the Lord ordinarily gathered Churches by the ministry of men in Office, as the Apostles, Evangelists, &c. yet not always so, as is evident, Acts 11. 20, 21. The story of Waldus is well known, and we suppose you will grant those Waldenses the name of a true Church. Origen when he was not allowed of the Church to be a Minister, yet converted many who died Martyrs. The story also of Frumentius is well known, with divers others. Secondly, Ministers by Office are of two sorts, either such as are called immediately or mediately, such as were immediately and extraordinarily called, were before Churches, and were called together and begin Churches, (as the Apostles, Matth. 28. 20. Act. 1. 8.) But all ordinary officers that are to administer in a Church do necessarily presuppose a Church to call them, unless any will adventure to say in plain English, that the calling of a Minister may be without the antecedent election of the people, and then we shall find what to Reply.
Answ. This consideration shines with such clearenesse, that an impartiall eye may easily see that the truth by sundry diverticula is rather clouded, then the argument fairely answered. This second proposition being too plaine to bee denied, interpretations are sought, but they are rather objections, to which wee shall answer in order. First, though wee grant the Lord ordinarily gathered Churches by the ministry of men in Office, as the Apostles, Evangelists, &c. yet not alwayes so, as is evident, Acts 11. 20, 21. The story of Waldus is well knowne, and we suppose you will grant those Waldenses the name of a true Church. Origen when hee was not allowed of the Church to bee a Ministes, yet converted many who died Martyrs. The story also of Frumentius is well known, with divers others. Secondly, Ministers by Office are of two sorts, either such as are called immediatly or mediatly, such as were immediatly and extraordinarily called, were before Churches, and were called together and begin Churches, (as the Apostles,