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A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible…A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible…
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shepherd, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-College in Cambridge, and late pastor of Cambridge in New-England.A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shephard, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-Colledge in Cambridge, and late pastour of Cambridge in New-England.
London: printed by E. Cotes for Andrew Crooke, 1652
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Answ. This we had in substance before, and is answered (with all the other instances in this first reason) in our answer to the Reply to the first consideration, and in other places; and therefore in vain here to repeat the same. And we have observed more then once your plain confession that the Apostles constituted Churches by baptism, even such Churches as they set Elders in by the election of the people.
Answ. This wee had in substance before, and is answered (with all the other instances in this first reason) in our answer to the Reply to the first consideration, and in other places; and therefore in vaine here to repeat the same. And wee have observed more then once your plaine confession that the Apostles constituted Churches by baptisme, even such Churches as they set Elders in by the election of the people.
Reply. The second reason in substance is this, because from Christ and the constant practise of the Apostles we learn, that such as are called of God, received the holy Ghost, believe in the Lord, profess their faith in him with repentance and amendment of life, have a right to baptism, and desiring it are wronged if they be deprived thereof.
Reply. The second reason in substance is this, because from Christ and the constant practise of the Apostles we learne, that such as are called of God, received the holy Ghost, beleeve in the Lord, professe their faith in him with repentance and amendment of life, have a right to baptisme, and desiring it are wronged if they bee deprived thereof.
Answ. We grant the whole; but as it is supposed in due order they must receive it; so we desire no more, for we grant upon these common grounds, such have jus ad rem, but not jus in re, and the immediate fruition of them.