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A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible…A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible…
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shepherd, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-College in Cambridge, and late pastor of Cambridge in New-England.A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shephard, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-Colledge in Cambridge, and late pastour of Cambridge in New-England.
London: printed by E. Cotes for Andrew Crooke, 1652
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Reply. It is true, people separate from our Liturgy, because stinted, not because this, or that, or ours in particular.
Reply. It is true, people separate from our Liturgie, because stinted, not because this, or that, or ours in particular.
Answ. If because it's stinted, then because yours, for we know none properly such, but yours, and it may well be one offence to all godly consciences, that yours are so imposed and stinted as they be: though it is hardly credible to us, (so far as our observation reach) that the main causes of the godly withdrawing from your Liturgy, should be the stinting of it, when so many corruptions in Matter and Form have been objected against it, by the best godly Reformers. And seeing the same persons will join with Prayers of godly Preachers, though they use the same form of prayer usually, and so in a large sense freely stinting themselves thereto, though not properly in such sense as your Liturgy is stinted.
Answ. If because it's stinted, then because yours, for we know none properly such, but yours, and it may well bee one offence to all godly consciences, that yours are so imposed and stinted as they bee: though it is hardly credible to us, (so farre as our observation reach) that the main causes of the godly withdrawing from your Liturgy, should be the stinting of it, when so many corruptions in Matter and Forme have been objected against it, by the best godly Reformers. And seeing the same persons will joyne with Prayers of godly Preachers, though they use the same forme of prayer usually, and so in a large sense freely stinting themselves thereto, though not properly in such sense as your Liturgy is stinted.
Reply. But say you, such set Forms used by Preachers are disliked also, and your reasons, especially the two last, why you admit not a stinted Liturgy, conclude against both in our understanding.