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A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, &…A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, &…
A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherein, as in a mirror or glass ye shall see [the] excellence and worthiness of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due unto public rulers of all th[os]e [that] profess Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in extern & outward things, to their utter damnation, do otherwise then well: translated out of Latin into English, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherin, as in a mirrour or glasse ye shal se [the] excellencte and worthynesse of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due vnto publique rulers of all th[os]e [that] professe Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in externe & outward thinges, to their vtter dampnatyon, do otherwyse then well: translated out of Latyn into Englishe, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.
Worcester : Imprinted the third day of April. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worcester in the high street, by John Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551Worcester : Imprynted the third daye of Aprill. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worceter in ye hygh strete, by Ihon Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551
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JO. Thou dost pass thy bounds, my Simon, and dost not abide in the matter that was propounded, our communication is of the magistrate. In the .xiij. chap. of Mark, which thou dost allege, Christ doth exhort his apostles to soberness and watching, & we do gladly confess that this was said to all them that are godly. For sith that the day of the lord shall come as a thief, being unknown unto all men, and that the same dreadful judgement of Christ, before whose judicial seat, all men must appear, doth indifferently hang ⟨image 34⟩over all men, he doth well in the apostles warn, monish,1 & exhort all men to watch Thou dost bring the text of the evangelist unperfect & mutilate. For these be the words. Watch ye therefore, for ye can not tell when the lord of yt house will come, whether it will be in the evening, or at midnight or when the corks crow, or in the morning lest if he come suddenly, he doth find you sleeping, That which I say to you, I do say it to all men. Thou canst not deny, but ye certain things are so set forth by Christ ye in a manner, they pertain to all men, but not without a difference,2 as when Christ saith: Ye are the salt of the earth. Ye are the light of the world. For these things do so pertain to all them that profess the religion of Christ, that in the mean season they do chiefly belong to the bishops, and their successors: yea, & to the magistrates. Again, certain things are equally & generally commanded to all men: as he all the precepts of mutual charity & love, & of forgiving our brethren their offences. Finally, certain things are so spoken, that they do pertain only to the apostles, and to their successors, the bishops and Pastors, as: Goo ye throughout ⟨image 35⟩all the world, and preach the gospel to all creatures.3 Therefore, it is not lawful too make the singular precepts, general & universal commandments. For he that reasoneth on this manner: What soever is said to the apostles, is said to all men, it is said to the apostles, go into all the world, and preach: ergo, the same is said to all men, doth reason foolishly. For Paul sayeth, that all be not apostles. Therefore, that, where he sayeth. But ye shall not do so, is a particular or singular precept, & pertaineth only to the apostles and their successors. Thou haste not yet proved then, that a Christian may not execute the office of a magistrate.