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A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, &…A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, &…
A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherein, as in a mirror or glass ye shall see [the] excellence and worthiness of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due unto public rulers of all th[os]e [that] profess Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in extern & outward things, to their utter damnation, do otherwise then well: translated out of Latin into English, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherin, as in a mirrour or glasse ye shal se [the] excellencte and worthynesse of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due vnto publique rulers of all th[os]e [that] professe Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in externe & outward thinges, to their vtter dampnatyon, do otherwyse then well: translated out of Latyn into Englishe, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.
Worcester : Imprinted the third day of April. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worcester in the high street, by John Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551Worcester : Imprynted the third daye of Aprill. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worceter in ye hygh strete, by Ihon Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551
Dialogue 3: ¶ The third Dialogue. That we are bound to obey the Magistrate.
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SIMON. Paul speaketh of that power, which is beneficial to the good, and punisheth the wicked But contrary to that, a tyrant doth wrong to them that are good and virtuous, he oppresseth them, and doth enhance and set up the wicked. Sith then ⟨image 44⟩that such power is not beneficial to the good,1 but rather do them wrong, how can it be of god?
SIMON. Paule speaketh of that power, which is benefycyall to the good, and punyssheth the wycked But contrarye to that, a tyraunte dothe wronge to them that are good and vertuous, he oppresseth them, and dothe enhaunce and set vp the wycked. Sith then ⟨image 44⟩that suche power is not beneficyall to ye good,1 but rather do them wronge, howe can it be of god?
- 1God doth ordain ye which seemeth evil to us, for the good of the elects.God doth ordeine ye which semeth euyll to vs, for the good of the electes.
JO. That thing which seemeth evil unto us, god doth ordain it to the good of his elect. Did not the cross & death of so many martyrs, which were slain and put to death by tyrants and cruel persecutors, serve to the glory of god, and to the increase of their own felicity and beatitude?1 God useth Nabugodonosor as a rod, wherewith he punisheth his people. Besides that, if any changes and alterations do happen, so that he which was a good magistrate, a godly ruler & officer, is clean changed, & doth become most wicked, ye proceedeth not of the nature of the magistrate, or office, but it cometh of the vices of most perverse & wicked men, that are in office, & execute the office of a magistrate, yea, many and sundry times it cometh of the plain ire and wrath of god. Are not many times yt water & air, yea, the meat it self pestiferous which notwithstanding by them selves, are most wholesome. But so god doth punish our sins. Understand the same of the tyrannous magistrates.