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A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, &…A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, &…
A most necessary & fruitful dialogue, between [the] seditious libertine or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherein, as in a mirror or glass ye shall see [the] excellence and worthiness of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due unto public rulers of all th[os]e [that] profess Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in extern & outward things, to their utter damnation, do otherwise then well: translated out of Latin into English, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.A most necessary & frutefull dialogue, betwene [the] seditious libertin or rebel Anabaptist, & the true obedient christia[n] wherin, as in a mirrour or glasse ye shal se [the] excellencte and worthynesse of a christia[n] magistrate: & again what obedience is due vnto publique rulers of all th[os]e [that] professe Christ yea, though [the] rulers, in externe & outward thinges, to their vtter dampnatyon, do otherwyse then well: translated out of Latyn into Englishe, by Iho[n] Veron Senonoys.
Worcester : Imprinted the third day of April. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worcester in the high street, by John Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551Worcester : Imprynted the third daye of Aprill. Anno. Do. 1551. At Worceter in ye hygh strete, by Ihon Oswen. They be also to sell at Shrewesbury. Cum priuligio ad imprimendum solum, 1551
Dialogue 3: ¶ The third Dialogue. That we are bound to obey the Magistrate.
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JO. That thing which seemeth evil unto us, god doth ordain it to the good of his elect. Did not the cross & death of so many martyrs, which were slain and put to death by tyrants and cruel persecutors, serve to the glory of god, and to the increase of their own felicity and beatitude?1 God useth Nabugodonosor as a rod, wherewith he punisheth his people. Besides that, if any changes and alterations do happen, so that he which was a good magistrate, a godly ruler & officer, is clean changed, & doth become most wicked, ye proceedeth not of the nature of the magistrate, or office, but it cometh of the vices of most perverse & wicked men, that are in office, & execute the office of a magistrate, yea, many and sundry times it cometh of the plain ire and wrath of god. Are not many times yt water & air, yea, the meat it self pestiferous which notwithstanding by them selves, are most wholesome. But so god doth punish our sins. Understand the same of the tyrannous magistrates.
IO. That thing whych semeth euyl vnto vs, god doth ordeyn it to the good of his elect. Did not ye crosse & death of so many martyrs, which were slaine and put to death by tyrauntes and cruel persecutours, serue to the glorye of god, and to the increase of their own felycitie and beatitude?1 God vseth Nabugodonosor as a rodde, wherwith he punyssheth his people. Besides yt, if any chaunges and alterations do happen, so that he which was a good magystrate, a godlye ruler & officer, is cleane chaunged, & doth become most wicked, ye procedeth not of ye nature of the magistrate, or office, but it commeth of the vices of most peruerse & wicked men, yt are in office, & execute the office of a magistrate, yea, many and sundry times it commeth of ye plain yre and wrath of god. Are not many times yt water & ayre, yea, ye meat it selfe pestiferous which notwtstanding by them selues, are most wholsom. But so god doth punish our sinnes. Vnderstand ye same of ye tirannous magistrates.
- 1That officers and rulers do sometimes wax tyrants it cometh either of the vices of them yt are in office or else, of the Ire & wrath of God.That officers and rulers do sometymes waxe tyrants it cometh eyther of the vyces of them yt are in offyce or els, of the Ire & wrath of God.