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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveareJohn Jewel, 1565

The B. of Salisbury.The B. of Sarisburie.

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The B. of Salisbury.

The B. of Sarisburie.

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M. Harding by a Rhetorical Correction, upon better advise, putteth him self in remembrance, that there is mention made of Peculiar & Private Masses, as he saith, in certain ancient Councils, and in the school Doctors. ¹He might have named Steven Gardiner, and Albertus Pigghius, that wrote the defence of Private Mass, & he him self acknowledgeth abuses, & errors in the same.² Yet will he not, I trow, confess, that either of them both was the Disciple of Satan.

M. Hardinge by a Rhetorical Correction, vpon better aduise, putteth him selfe in remembrance, that there is mention made of Peculiar & Priuate Masses, as he sayth, in certaine auncient Councelles, and in the schoole Doctours. ¹He might haue named Steuen Gardiner, and Albertus Pigghius, that wrote the defence of Priuate Masse, & he him selfe acknowledgeth abuses, & errours in the same.² Yet wil he not, I trowe, confesse, that eyther of them both was the Disciple of Sathan.

1In the Bishops book.In the Bishops booke.
2Alber. Pigghius in locis Communib. De Privata Missa.Alber. Pigghius in locis Communib. De Priuata Missa.

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But to agree upon terms, and not to fly the name of Mass, although it be very seldom, and for the most part never found in the old Catholic writers: that we call the Common or Public Mass,¹ whereas the priest and people receive the holy Communion together, which was the ancient order of the Apostles ⟨p. 4⟩and holy Fathers in the primitive Church. But whereas the priest receiveth the Sacrament him self alone, without distribution made unto others, that we call the Private Mass,² yea although the whole parish be present and look upon him. For a thing may be private although it be done by the public Minister, and for the people, and in the midst of all the people. And thus Thomas of Aquine seemeth to take these words Private, and Common. First (saith he) the people is prepared to receive by the Common prayer of all the people, which is the Lords prayer: and also by the Private prayer, which the priest offereth specially for the people. ³Here the prayer is called private, notwithstanding it be made by the priest, for the people, and in the midst of the Congregation.

But to agrée vpon termes, and not to flie the name of Masse, althoughe it be very seldome, and for the most parte neuer founde in the olde Catholike wryters: that we cal the Common or Publike Masse,¹ whereas the priest and people receiue the holy Communion togeather, whiche was the auncient order of the Apostles ⟨p. 4⟩and holy Fathers in the primitiue Churche. But whereas the priest receiueth the Sacrament him selfe alone, without distribution made vnto others, that we cal the Priuate Masse,² yea although the whole parishe be present and looke vpon him. For a thinge may be priuate although it be doone by the publike Minister, and for the people, and in the middes of al the people. And thus Thomas of Aquine séemeth to take these woordes Priuate, and Common. First (saith he) the people is prepared to receiue by the Common prayer of al the people, which is the Lordes praier: and also by the Priuate prayer, which the priest offereth specially for the people. ³Here the praier is called priuate, notwithstandinge it be made by the priest, for the people, and in the middes of the Congregation.

1Public Mass.Publike Masse.
2Private Mass.Priuate Masse.
33. Par. q. 183. ar. 4. In explanation Missae Romanae.3. Par. q. 183. ar. 4. In explanatione Missae Romanae.