A01540:345
A just defence of certain passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and…A iust defence of certaine passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and…
A just defence of certain passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and use of lots, against such exceptions and oppositions as have been made thereunto to Mr. I.B. Wherein the insufficiency of his answers given to the arguments brought in defence of a lusorious lot is manifested; the imbecility of his arguments produced against the same further discovered; and the point it self in controversy more fully cleared; by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and author of the former treatise.A iust defence of certaine passages in a former treatise concerning the nature and vse of lots, against such exceptions and oppositions as have beene made thereunto to Mr. I.B. Wherein the insufficiencie of his answers giuen to the arguments brought in defence of a lusorious lot is manifested; the imbecillitie of his arguments produced against the same further discouered; and the point it selfe in controuersie more fully cleared; by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and author of the former treatise.
London: printed by John Haviland for Robert Bird, 1623London: printed by Iohn Haviland for Robert Bird, 1623
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Answer him this way, that Apparel in general is enjoined, and for the matter of it there is no special direction of restraint given in the word, and therefore liberty left for any that is not against the general Rules in the word, of decency, modesty, frugality, &c. resolving him of such as doubt or question may be moved of: and it is not unlikely but you may give him good satisfaction therein. Whereas go Mr. Bs. way and tell him, that though apparel it self be allowed, yet whether the matter of it be determined or no, neither he nor any man can say, unless he had all the Bible, and whatsoever is contained in it, or may be deduced from it, in his head: I suppose you will be so far from giving him any good satisfaction, that you will leave him more perplexed than you found him at first. I propound somewhat of this kind in pursuit of mine Argument, which Mr. B. misdoubting he might run a ground there, slyly saileth by, and not so much as once taketh notice of. Either he meddleth with the Conclusion, and passeth by the premises: Or he frameth me such matter of confirmation as he pleaseth, and letteth pass that that I propound. I demand then, rubbing up Mr. Bs. memory a little, as before in my Book, what other proof can be brought for the justifying ⟨p. 154⟩of Bowls or Chess-play, than such as is here propounded, which it behoved him to have answered if he knew any better, considering that the instance was of much more moment for the clearing and confirming of this branch of mine Assumption, than many things that it hath pleased him to be piddling withal. For the thing it self: First, it is well known, that for many Heads, or Common places, what is found in the word may soon be laid all together, as for games, for markets, for marriage-feasts, for Lots, and the like: by consideration whereof a man may oft be informed what is in Gods word either for or against them. Secondly, such things as require a special Institution, (and of this kind must a Lot be, if it be a divine Oracle, and an immediate judgement and sentence of God, as Mr. B. pretendeth that it is) the matter is much more obvious.
Answer him this way, that Apparell in generall is inioyned, and for the matter of it there is no speciall direction of restraint giuen in the word, and therefore liberty left for any that is not against the generall Rules in the word, of decencie, modestie, frugalitie, &c. resoluing him of such as doubt or question may be moued of: and it is not vnlikely but you may giue him good satisfaction therein. Whereas goe Mr. Bs. way and tell him, that though apparell it selfe be allowed, yet whether the matter of it be determined or no, neither he nor any man can say, vnlesse he had all the Bible, and whatsoeuer is contained in it, or may be deduced from it, in his head: I suppose you will be so far from giuing him any good satisfaction, that you will leaue him more perplexed than you found him at first. I propound somewhat of this kinde in pursuit of mine Argument, which Mr. B. misdoubting he might run a ground there, slily saileth by, and not so much as once taketh notice of. Either he medleth with the Conclusion, and passeth by the premises: Or hee frameth me such matter of confirmation as hee pleaseth, and letteth passe that that I propound. I demand then, rubbing vp Mr. Bs. memorie a little, as before in my Booke, what other proofe can be brought for the iustifying