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A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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Ans. 1. I show in my 9. Proposition, that the ordinance of Superiors can not make that to be no scandal which otherwise should be Scandal. If this be not taken well from us, let xone of our Opposites speak for us; who acknowledgeth, that human power can not make us do that which we can not do without giving of Scandal, and that in this case, the pretext of obedience to Superiors shall not excuse us at the hands of the Supreme judge.
Ans. 1. I shew in my 9. Proposition, that the ordinance of Superiours can not make that to be no scandall which otherwise should be Scandall. If this be not taken well from us, let xone of our Opposites speake for us; who aknowledgeth, that human power can not make us doe that which we can not doe without giving of Scandall, and that in this case, the pretext of obedience to Superiours shall not excuse us at the hands of the Supreme judge.
- xDr. Forbesse Iren. lib. 2. cap. 20. num. 19.
2. I would learn of him what makes a lawful ordinance about matters of fact or things to be done? Not the will of Superiors; else there shall be no unlawful ordinances; (for every ordinance hath the will of the ordainer:) Not the lawfulness of the thing in it self which is ordained neither; for then every ordinance, which prescribeth a thing lawful in it self, were it never so inexpedient in respect of supervenient circum stances, should be lawful. To a lawful ordinance then required, not only that the thing ordained be lawful in it self, is also that it be not inexpedient. So that a thing may be lawful in itself, yet not lawfully ordained, because the ordinance commandeth the doing of it, whereas there are many things lawful which ought not to be done, because they are not expedient,