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A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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Thirdly, we are told, that if these answers which our Opposites Sect. 13 give, get no place, then shall we use nothing at all which hath been abused by Idolaters, and by consequence, neither Baptism nor the Lords Supper. But let yZanchius answer for us, that these things are by themselves necessary, so that it is enough they be purged from the abuse. And zelsewhere he resolveth, that things which are by themselves both good and necessary, may not for any abuse be put away. Si vero res sint adiaphorae sua natura & per legem Dei, eoque tales quae citra jacturam salutis omitti possunt, etiamsi ad bonos usus initio fuerunt institutae: si tamen postea videamus illas in abusus pernitiosos esse conversas: pietas in Deum, & charitas erga proximum, postulant ut tollantur, &c. He adds for proof of that which he saith, the example of Hezekiah in breaking down that Brazen Serpent, which example doth indeed most pregnantly enforce the abolishing of all things or rites, notoriously abused to Idolatry, when they are not of any necessary use, but it warranteth not the abolishing of any thing which hath a necessary use, because the Brazen Serpent is not contained in the number of those things quibus carere non possumus, saith aWolphius, answering to the same objection, which presently I have in hand. Now that the Ceremonies have not in themselves, nor by the Law of God any necessary use, and that without hazard of Salvation, they may be omitted, is acknowledged by Formalists themselves, wherefore I need not stay to prove it.
Thirdly, we are told, that if these answers which our Opposites Sect. 13 give, get no place, then shall we use nothing at all which hath been abused by Idolaters, and by consequence, neither Baptisme nor the Lords Supper. But let yZanchius answer for us, that these things are by themselves necessary, so that it is enough they be purged from the abuse. And zelsewhere he resolveth, that things which are by themselves both good and necessary, may not for any abuse bee put away. Si vero res sint adiaphorae sua natura & per legem Dei, eoque tales quae citra jacturam salutis omitti possunt, etiamsi ad bonos usus initio fuerunt institutae: si tamen postea videamus illas in abusus pernitiosos esse conversas: pietas in Deum, & charitas erga proximum, postulant ut tollantur, &c. He addes for proofe of that which he saith, the example of Hezekiah in breaking downe that Brazen Serpent, which example doth indeed most pregnantly enforce the abolishing of all things or rites, notouriously abused to Idolatry, when they are not of any necessary use, but it warranteth not the abolishing of any thing which hath a necessary use, because the Brazen Serpent is not contained in the number of those things quibus carere non possumus, saith