A01760:425
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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Thirdly, kneeling in the act of receiving the Sacrament, before Sect. 10 the vicarious signs which stand in Christs stead, and are purposely set before us in the act of adoration, that before them we may adore; wanteth nothing to make up Idolatrous coadoration or relative worship. Our Opposites here tell us of two things necessary to ⟨p. 57⟩the making up of Idolatry, neither of which is found in their kneeling. First, they say, except there be an intention in the worshipper, to adore the creature which is before his eyes, his kneeling before it is no Idolatry. What shall I say, saith qPaybody? What need I say in this place, but to profess and likewise avouch, that we intend only to worship the Lord our God, when we kneel in the act of receiving? we worship not the Bread and Wine, we intend not our adoring and kneeling unto them. Give us leave to avouch our sincerity in this matter, and it will take away the respect of Idolatry in Gods worship. Answ. I showed before, that Paybody defendeth Dr Morton his adoration, which he calleth relative from the Sign to Christ: yet let it be so, as here he pretendeth, that no adoration is intended to the Sign; will this save their kneeling from Idolatry? Nay then, the three Children should not have been Idolaters, if they had kneeled before Nebuchadnezzars image, intending their worship to God only, and not to the Image. Our Opposites here, take the Nicodemites by the hand. But what saith rCalvin? Si isti boni sapientesque Sophistae, ibi tum fuissent, simplicitatem illorum trium servorum Dei irrisissent. Nam hujusmodi credo cos verbis objurgassent: miseri homines istud quidem *non est adorare, quum vos in rebus nullam fidem adhibetis: nulla est Idololatria nisi ubi est devotio, hoc est quaedam animi ad idola colenda venerandasque adjunctio atque applicatio, &c. If Paybody had been in Calvins place, he could not have called the Nicodemites Idolaters, forasmuch as they have no intention to worship the Popish Images, when they kneel and worship before them. Nay, the grossest Idolaters that ever were, shall by this doctrine be no Idolaters, and sPaul shall be censured for teaching that the Gentiles did worship Devils, since they did not intend to worship Divells. Idololatrae nec olim in Paganismo intendebant, nec hodie in Papatu intendunt, Daemonibus offerre. Quid tum?