A01760:622
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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3. Whileas he is discoursing of the Churches power to prescribe things pertaining to order, contra-distinguished from her power which she hath to publish the Commandments of Christ, he reckons forth, among his other examples, Women's silence in the Church, as if the Church did prescribe this as a matter of order left to her determination, and not publish it as the Commandment of Christ in his Word.
3. Whileas he is discoursing of the Churches power to prescribe things pertaining to order, contra-distinguished from her power which she hath to publish the Commandements of Christ, he reckons forth, among his other examples, Womens silence in the Church, as if the Church did prescribe this as a matter of order left to her determination, and not publish it as the Commandement of Christ in his Word.
4. Whereas he saith, that the Church hath power to prescribe such Rites & Ceremonies, as may cause a due respect unto, & regard of the works of Gods service, and thereby stir men up to greater fervour and devotion: by his own words shall he be condemned. For a little before, he reprehendeth the Romanists for maintaining that the Church hath power to annex unto the Ceremonies which she deviseth, the working of Spiritual and supernatural effects. And a little after, he saith, that the Church hath no power to ordain such Ceremonies as serve to signify, assure and convey unto men, such benefits of saving grace, as God in Christ is pleased to bestow on them. Now, to cause a regard of, and a respect unto the works of Gods service, and thereby to stir up men to fervour and devotion, what is it but the working of a Spiritual & supernatural effect, & the conveying unto men such a benefit of saving grace, as God in Christ is pleased to bestow on them? In like manner, whereas he holdeth, that the Church hath power to ordain such Ceremonies, as serve to express those Spiritual and Heavenly affections, dispositions, motions or desires, which are or should be in men; In the very same place he confuteth himself, whileas he affirmeth that the Church hath no power to ordain such Ceremonies as serve to signify unto men those benefits of saving grace, which God in Christ is pleased to bestow on them. Now, to express such Heavenly & Spiritual affections, dispositions, motions, or desires, as should be in men; is (I suppose) to signify unto men such benefits of saving grace, as God in Christ is pleased to bestow on them. Who dare deny it?