A01760:637
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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4. Whereas he saith, that such things as conduce to Faith and manners, do depend upon the circumstances, and so could not be particularly defined in the Word, either he speaks of those things, as they are defined in the general, or as they are defined in the particular. Not the first, for as they are defined in the general, they cannot depend upon changeable circumstances, and that because according to his own tenet, the Word defines them in the general, & this definition of the Word is most certain & constant, neither can any change happen unto it. Wherefore (without doubt) he must pronounce this, of the definition of such things in the particular. Now to say, that things conducing to faith & manners, as they are particularly defined, do depend upon circumstan•, is as much as to say that circumstances depend upon circumstances. For things conducing to Faith and manners, which the Church hath ⟨image 116⟩power to determine particularly, what are they other then circumstances? Surely, he who taketh not Cameroes Judgement to be, that the Church hath power to determine somewhat more then the circumstances (and by consequence a part of the substance) of Gods worship, shall give no sense to his words. Yet if one would take his meaning so, I see not how he can be saved from contradicting himself; for as much as he holdeth, that such things as pertain to Faith & manners are particularly defined in the Word. To say no more, I smell such a thing in Cameroes opinion as can neither stand with reason nor with himself.
4. Whereas he saith, that such things as conduce to Faith and maners, doe depend upon the circumstances, and so could not be particularly defined in the Word, either he speakes of those things, as they are defined in the generall, or as they are defined in the particular. Not the first, for as they are defined in the generall, they cannot depend upon changeable circumstances, and that because according to his owne tenet, the Word defines them in the general, & this definition of the Word is most certaine & constant, neither can any change happen unto it. Wherefore (without doubt) he must pronounce this, of the definition of such things in the particular. Now to say, that things conducing to faith & maners, as they are particularly defined, doe depend upon circumstan•, is as much as to say that circumstances depend upon circumstances. For things conducing to Faith and manners, which the Church hath