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A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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3. Why holdeth he, that things external in the worship of God are not vera spiritualia? For if they be Ecclesiastical and sacred Ceremonies (not fleshly and worldly) why will he not also acknowledge them for true spiritual things? And if they be not vera spiritualia, why calls he them res spirituals? For are not Res and Verum reciprocal, as well as Ens and Verum?
3. Why holdeth he, that things externall in the worship of God are not vera spiritualia? For if they be Ecclesiasticall and sacred Ceremonies (not fleshly and wordly) why will he not also acknowledge them for true spirituall things? And if they be not vera spiritualia, why calls he them res spirituales? For are not Res and Verum reciprocall, as wel as Ens and Verum?
4. Even as a Prince in his Sea-voyage is supreme Governor of all which are in the Ship with him, end by consequence of the Governor, who directs her course, yet doth he not govern the action of governing or directing the course of the Ship: So though a Prince be the only supreme Governor of all his Dominions, & by consequence of Ecclesiastical persons in his Dominions, yet he can not be said to Govern all their Ecclesiastical actions & causes. And as the Governor of a Ship acknowledgeth his Prince for his only supreme Governor, even then whiles he is governing & directing the course of the ship, (otherwise whiles he is governing her course, he should not be his Princes Subject) yet he doth not thereby acknowledge that his Prince governeth his action of directing the course of the Ship, (for then should the Prince be the Pilot:) So when one hath acknowledged the Prince to be the only supreme Governor upon Earth, of all Ecclesiastical persons in his Dominions, even whiles they are ordering and determining Ecclesiastical causes; yet he hath not thereby acknowledged that the Prince governeth the Ecclesiastical causes. Wherefore whiles kthe B. taketh the English Oath of Supremacy, to acknowledge the same which he teacheth touching the Princes power, he giveth it another sense then the words of it can bear. For it saith not that the Kings Majesty is the only supreme Governor of all his Highness Dominions, and OF all things and causes therein, as well Ecclesiastical or Spiritual, as Temporal. But it saith, that he is the only Supreme Governor of all his Highness Dominions IN all things or causes, &c. Now, the spiritual Guides of the Church substituted by Christ, as Deputies in his stead, who is the most supreme Governor of his own Church, and