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A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not…
A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded upon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our own arguments [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the answers and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Morton ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.A dispute against the English-popish ceremonies, obtruded vpon the Church of Scotland Wherein not only our ovvne argumemts [sic] against the same are strongly confirmed, but likewise the ansvveres and defences of our opposites, such as Hooker, Mortoune ... Forbesse, &c. particularly confuted.
Leiden: printed by W. Christiaens, 1637
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1. If those Commissioners have any power at all to depose Ministers, they have it from the King whose Commissioners they are. But from him they have it not. Therefore they have none at all. The proposition is most certain: for they sit not in that Commission to judge in their own name, nor by their own auctority quum nihil exerceat delegatus nomine proprio, as pPanormitan saith,) but by virtue only of the Commission and Delegation which they have of the King. Yea, Bishops themselves exercise not any Jurisdiction in the High Commission as Bishops, but only as the Kings Commissioners, as qD. Downame acknowledgeth. The Assumption is grounded upon this reason: The King hath not power to depose Ministers. Ergo he can not give this power to others. For rNemo potest plus juris transfer in alium quam sibi competere dignoscatur. The King may sometimes inflict such a civill punishment upon Ministers, ⟨image 160⟩whereupon secondarily and accidentally will follow their falling away from their Ecclesiastical office and function, (in which sense it is said, that Solomon deposed Abiathar, as we heard before,) but to depose them directly and formally (which the High Commission usurpeth to do) he hath no power, and that because this deposition is an act of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction: Whereas the power of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction doth no more agree to the King, then the power of Ecclesiastical order: his power is Civill & Temporal, not Spiritual & Ecclesiastical. sD. Field also confesseth, that none may judicially degrade or put any one lawfully admitted, from his degree and order, but the Spiritual Guides of the Church alone.
1. If those Commissioners have any power at all to depose Ministers, they have it from the King whose Commissioners they are. But from him they have it not. Therefore they have none at all. The proposition is most certaine: for they sit not in that Commission to judge in their owne name, nor by their owne auctority quum nihil exerceat delegatus nomine proprio, as