A04468:1701
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to…A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to…
A defence of the Apology of the Church of England containing an answer to a certain book lately set forth by M. Harding, and entitled, A confutation of &c. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Elephant, by Henry Wykes, Anno 1567. 27. OctobrisImprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Elephante, by Henry VVykes, Anno 1567. 27. Octobris
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Hereof ye say, ye have written sufficiently otherwheres. Al this I grant: your Books are known. How be it, if you would have written no more but Trueth▪ ye might have saved much time, and spared some paper. But if it shall not mislike you, once again more advisedly to view the same, ye shall find in the very First Division thereof three great Untruths together, all within the space of Fourteen lines.
Hereof ye saie, ye haue written sufficiently otherwheres. Al this I graunt: your Bookes are knowen. How be it, if you woulde haue written nomore but Truethe▪ ye might haue saued mutche time, and spared somme paper. But if it shal not mislike you, once againe more aduisedly to viewe the same, ye shal finde in the very Firste Diuision thereof thrée greate Vntruthes togeather, al within the space of Foureteene lines.
Now whether your fantasy of Transubstantiation be a Dream, or no, by the Constancy, and Certainty thereof, and by the agreement of your Doctors, y• founded it first▪ it may appear. Petrus Lombardus, y• only General of all this Camp,1 hereof useth these speaches: Quibusdam ita Videtur: Quidā dicunt: Quidā tradunt: Quidam concedunt: Alij putaverunt, Substantiam ibi Panis & Vini remanere: Somme men Judge thus: Somme say thus: Somme have written thus: Somme grant this: Somme others have thought thus, that y• very Substance of the Bread, and Wine remaineth still. Here is a strange agreement of Learned men, specially in a case of the Catholic Faith. But hereto what saith Peter Lombard him self, that taketh upon him as a Judge to determine these doubts? How is he resolved? Or how agreeth he in Judgement with him self? His answer is this, Si autem quaeritur, qualis sit illa Conuersio, An Formalis, An Substantialis, An alterius generis, definire non sufficio: If a question were moved, what manner of Conversion, or change this is: Whether it be in Form, or in Substance, or of some other sort, I am not able to discuss it. Here we may see, the blind leadeth the blind. He that