Where as you M. Ivel, allege S. Paul for your purpose, and make him to say thus, otherwise then he wrote,1 If thou make thy prayer in the congregation with thy sprite, or noise of strange words, how shall the unlearned man thereunto say Amen? For he knoweth not what thou sayest: you bo• bas•e this text with your own counter feit stuffing. The translation authorised by king Edward and his Counsel, is truer, and followeth the Greek nearer, which hath thus. When thou blessest with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned, say Amen, at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not, what thou sayest? Here the Apostle S. Paul speaketh of Blessing, or thanks giving with the spirit, which spirit, what it is, it is not easy to declare, after the judgement of your own Patriarch John Calvin. S. Ambrose taketh it for the spirit we have received in Baptism, that doth incline, and move us to prayer. S. Thomas, for the holy ghost given to us, for reason, and for the power imaginative. Erasmus, for the voice it self. Isidorus Clarius, for the power of pronouncing or utterance, some, for the breathe that passeth the throat, some for the intention, S. Augustine very subtly, Pro apprehensione quae ideas concipit, & signa rerum. Calvin in his Institutions, De oratione Cap. 15. for the sound of the mouth, that is caused of the breathe of a mans throat, and rebounding of the air. Chrysostom, for the spiritual gift, or the gift of the holy ghost to speak with tongues. Which Calvin him self, sitting in judgement as it were, upon this doubtful matter, alloweth best, and condemneth the mind of all others, and also his own, though unawares, as it seemeth: and so he would condemn your noise of strange words likewise, if he heard it. This text being so doubtful of it self in sense, so put out of tune by your noise of strange words, wherewith you descant upon the word, Spirit, so violently applied by your new fangled exposition, maketh little to the condemnation of the Latin Service in the Latin Church: specially seeing that S. Paul meaneth by that miraculous speaking with tongues, used, or rather abused among the Corinthians, a far different manner of speaking from that speaking, whereby the Priest uttereth the Common Service.
VVhere as you M. Iuel, allege S. Paule for your purpose, and make him to say thus, otherwise then he wrote,1 If thou make thy praier in the congregation with thy sprite, or noise of strange wordes, how shal the vnlearned man therevnto saye Amen? For he knoweth not what thou saiest: you bo• bas•e this texte with your owne counter feit stuffinge. The translation auctorised by kinge Edwarde and his Counsel, is tru•r, and foloweth the Greeke nearer, whiche hath thus. VVhen thou blessist with the spirite, how shal he that occupieth the roome of the vnlearned, saye Amen, at thy geuing of thankes, seinge he vnderstandeth not, what thou saiest? Here the Apostle S. Paule speaketh of Blessinge, or thankes geuinge with the spirite, whiche spirite, what it is, it is not easie to declare, after the iudgement of your owne Patriake Iohn Caluine. S. Ambrose taketh it for the spirite we haue receiued in Baptisme, that doth encline, and moue vs to praier. S. Thomas, for the holy ghost geuen to vs, for reason, and for the powre imaginatiue. Erasmus, for the voice it selfe. Isidorus Clarius, for the povver of pronouncing or vtterance, some, for the breathe that passeth the throte, some for the intention, S. Augustine verie subtily, Pro apprehensione quae ideas concipit, & signa rerum. Caluine in his Institutions, De oratione Cap. 15. for the sounde of the mouthe, that is caused of the breathe of a mans throte, and reboundinge of the aier. Chrysostome, for the spiritual gifte, or the gift of the holy ghoste to speake vvith tongues. VVhiche Caluine him selfe, sittinge in iudgement as it vvere, vpon this doubtful matter, allovveth best, and condemneth the minde of al others, and also his ovvne, though vnvvares, as it seemeth: and so he vvoulde condemne your noyse of strange vvordes likevvise, if he hearde it. This texte beinge so doubtful of it selfe in sense, so put out of tune by your noyse of strange vvordes, vvherewith you descant vpon the vvorde, Spirite, so violently applied by your nevv fangled exposition, maketh litle to the condemnation of the Latine Seruice in the Latin Church: specially seing that S. Paule meaneth by that miraculous speakinge vvith tongues, vsed, or rather abused amonge the Corinthians, a farre different manner of speakinge from that speaking, vvhereby the Priest vttereth the Common Seruice.
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