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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 6 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 6 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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The B. of Salisbury.
The B. of Sarisburie.
In all these words, there is no mention of Carnal Presence: & therefore M. Hardinges purpose is hereby but weakly furthered. But (good Christian Reader) to put thee out of all doubt of S. Ambroses judgement in this behalf, I beseech thee, to consider these words, that he writeth upon the Gospel of S. Luke. Quae sursum sunt, sapite: 1non quae supra Terram. Ergo non supra Terram, nec in Terra, nec secundum Carnē te quaerere debemus, si volumus inuenire. Seek the things, that be above: not the things that be upon Earth. Therefore we must seek thee neither upon the Earth, nor in the Earth, nor according to the Flesh, if we list to find thee. This is S. Ambroses undoubted, and most certain judgement: from which we may not be removed, by any amplification, or show of words. If M. Harding will needs force, & press the bare letter, as I said before of S. Chrysostom, he will make S. Ambrose in one sentence plain contrary to him self. For first he saith, Vidimus Principē Sacerdotū, &c. We have seen (Christ) the Prince of Priests coming unto us: we have seen him, and heard ⟨p. 358⟩him offering up for us his Blood. He addeth immediatly, Etsi nunc Christus non videtur offerre, &c. Although Christ be not seen to offer, yet is he offered in the Earth. If we follow the very force, and sound of the words, this Contradiction of seeing, and not seeing can not be salved. Wherefore, to avoid this inconvenience, we must say, that S. Ambrose speaketh of the Spiritual eyes of our Faith, with which eyes we see Christ in deed offering up him self upon the Cross. And thus,2 as S. Ambrose saith, Magis videtur, quod non videtur: The thing is the better seen, that is not seen. It is best seen with our Faith, that is least seen with our Body. For our Faith is sharper, then our eye. And in like sense S. Augustine saithe,