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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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This Conjecture is taken out of certain words of Chrysostom: and the whole force thereof standeth only upon this word Nemo, which is in English, No body. 1Chrysostoms words be these, We do daily offer the Sacrifice, or (as M. Harding delighteth rather to say) we do daily say Mass, and there is No Body to Communicate. Ergo, saith he, Chrysostom received alone: And so have we without question a plain Private Mass.
This Coniecture is taken out of certaine woordes of Chrysostome: and the whole force thereof standeth onely vpon this woorde Nemo, which is in English, No body. 1Chrysostomes woordes be these, Wee doo daily offer the Sacrifice, or (as M. Harding deliteth rather to say) wee doo daily say Masse, and there is No Body to Communicate. Ergo, saith he, Chrysostome receiued alone: And so haue wée without question a plaine Priuate Masse.
- 1Chrysostom. Ad populum Antiochen. hom. 61.
Here would I first know, whether M. Harding will rest upon the bare words of Chrysostom, or rather qualify them somewhat, and take his meaning. If he press the words so precisely, as he seemeth to do, then did not Chrysostom him self Communicate. For he was Some Body: and the plain words be, No Body doth Communicate: By which words doubtless Chrysostom him self is excluded, as well as others. And so there was no Sole receiving, nor any receiving at all: and therefore no Private Mass.
Here woulde I first know, whether M. Harding wil rest vpon the bare woordes of Chrysostome, or rather qualifie them somewhat, and take his meaninge. If he presse the woordes so precisely, as he séemeth to doo, then did not Chrysostome him selfe Communicate. For he was Some Body: and the plaine woordes be, No Body doth Communicate: By which woordes doubtlesse Chrysostome him selfe is excluded, as wel as others. And so there was no Sole receiuinge, nor any receiuinge at al: and therefore no Prinate Masse.