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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. No sir. But to make our anchor-hold the surer, the which is fastened on S. Peter, Doctor Allen thought good that in the translation of the new testament into our tongue, which we were about at Rhemes, 1it should be thus englished; Thou art ⟨p. 56⟩Peter and upon this peter. The which I rather follow, then the other of the rock, because it is agreeable unto the original.
Hart. No syr. But to make our anker-holde the surer, the which is fastned on S. Peter, Doctor Allen thought good that in the translation of the new testament into our tongue, which wée were about at Rhemes, 1it should be thus englished; Thou art ⟨p. 56⟩Peter and vpon this peter. The which I rather folow, then the other of the rocke, because it is agréeable vnto the originall.
- 1As in their Annotations on Mat. 16.18. they say it should be by Christs words speaking in the Syriac tongue: yea, and by the meaning of the greek words too. Though they keep the name of rock in their text, because of the latin.As in their Annotations on Mat. 16.18. they say it should be by Christs words speaking in the Syriake tongue: yea, and by the meaning of the greeke wordes too. Though they keepe the name of rocke in their text, because of the latin.
Rainoldes. It is not. For the original is the Greek text: and that hath, [Greek or Hebrew]. whereto your latin old translation agreeth, with Petrus and petra: as your self alleged it. The words of both which though they differ not so much as Peter and rock: yet they are not one, as your Peter and peter.