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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. We give unto her Highness the title, not of head, but of qSupreme governor: and that upon how just ground of Gods word, and high commission from the highest, it shall in ⟨p. 53⟩*due place be showed if you will. As for the Preacher, whom you mention: I had rather you would deal with me by public monuments and writings of our church, as I do with you, then by reports of private speeches: for perhaps you fancied more then he said: perhaps he said so much that you were glad to smile it out with that fancy. But if your report of his Sermon be true, it is likely that he gave the name of head to the Queen in the same meaning that we do the title of supreme governor, which I will prove to be godly: and he denied the Pope to be head in an other meaning, in which that name belongeth unto Christ alone, condemning them of blasphemy who give it him so. And they, who did smile hereat, as at folly, because they were Papists, might, if they were Paynims, smile at the scriptures too: which do give the title of 3Gods unto governors, and yet condemn them who have sother Gods beside the Lord. For if it be, no blasphemy to call the Magistrates Gods: why should it be blasphemy to call tMercurius and Jupiter Gods? Is not this your reason? But our doctrine as it is holy and true, so it is plain: if men will rather learn it humbly, as Christians, then laugh at it as Lucians, or, as Julians, revolt from it. For we teach uthat Christ is the head of the church, as he doth quicken it with his spirit, as he is the light, the health, the life of it: and is present always to fill it with his blessings, and with his grace to govern it. In the which respects, because xthe Scripture giveth the name of head to Christ alone, by an excellency: thereof we so conclude, that he is the only head of the church. For otherwise, we know, that (in an other kind and degree of resemblance) they may be called heads, who have any preeminence of place or government over others. As in the Hebrew text we read