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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. But if you read it so: the clause ensuing is unperfect, and hath no sense at all. A very manifest token that somewhat is a miss, through either the writers, or printers, or correctours fault. And that is [qui] mistaken (as I gesse) for [neque,] and put out of his place: where it ought to follow upon the name of Damasus, etsi quaedam de donis Constantini dicit tamen; neque alij insignes ecclesiarum doctores- But howsoever the words are to be amended: the sense must needs be as I said touching Damasus. For the sentence is plain so far, that neither Jerome nor Damasus have mentioned that donation of Constantine: as plain, as that which followeth, that it is not mentioned by other famous Doctors neither. And who can imagine that the Century-writers should say that Damasus wrote of it: when it is so clear that he wrote not, that your xHieronymus Paulus, & Cusanus do bring his authority for a special reason against the donation.y The right therefore of it is not proved by Damasus. Now, is the possession proved any better out of Ammianus?
Rainoldes. But if you reade it so: the clause ensuing is vnperfit, and hath no sense at all. A very manifest token that somewhat is a misse, through either the writers, or printers, or correctours faute. And that is [qui] mistaken (as I gesse) for [neque,] and put out of his place: where it ought to folow vpon the name of Damasus, etsi quaedam de donis Constantini dicit tamen; neque alij insignes ecclesiarum doctores- But howsoeuer the words are to be amended: the sense must néedes be as I saide touching Damasus. For the sentence is plaine so farre, that neither Ierom nor Damasus haue mentioned that donation of Constantine: as plaine, as that which foloweth, that it is not mentioned by other famous Doctors neither. And who can imagin that the Centurie-writers should say that Damasus wrote of it: when it is so cléere that he wrote not, that your xHieronymus Paulus, & Cusanus do bring his autoritie for a speciall reason against the donation.y The right therefore of it is not proued by Damasus. Now, is the possession proued any better out of Ammianus?