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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. Great skill, Rabbi Abraham. For he wrote a Chronicle ⟨p. 417⟩which Genebrard hath translated out of Hebrew in•o Latin, entitled Cabala historica.
Hart. Great skill, Rabbi Abraham. For hee wrote a Chronicle ⟨p. 417⟩which Genebrard hath translated out of Hebrue in•o Latin, entitled Cabbala historica.
Rainoldes. Wherein he bewrayeth the greatness of his skill. For the Rabbi chronicleth gthere, that our saviour (Jesus of Nazareth, as he calleth him) was not borne in the days of Augustus the Emperor, and Herod king of Jury, but a•ore that time above a hundred years. And thereupon h•e cha• geth the stories of other nations with error, for writing so of Christs age: but we (saith he) have *the true tradition & story out of Misna and Talmud, whose authors have not changed any whit of things. Wherefore, if Rabbi Abraham were no better seen in the story of the Jews, in that point, whereof he might have learned the truth by their own hJosephus: you may give him leave to be overseen in the Roman stories. As for Aben Ezra, his words may be taken in a true meaning, that Rome by the occasion that Constantine le•t it, came afterward in process of time to the iniquity which is called Peter, that is, to the Pope. For in deed the Emperors abiding at Constantinople made it easier for the Popes to practise those treasons which gt them Rome at last. But admit he meant that Constantine ga Rome to the iniquity called Peter. Will Genebrard confess th the Pope (the Peter of Rome) is an iniquity, because that Aben Ezra saith so?