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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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As since Queen Mary's days one of your best Popes, Pius the fifth, hath showed: bwho hath excommunicated, yea, 1deposed also our gracious Queen Elisabeth; and creserved benefices, dignities, and 2Bishoprics to his own bestowing from them who should elect their pastors by right. Of the which things sith he took unlawful power in the one, to depose Princes, as your self have told me that you are of opinion; in the other, dthe author, the good author (whom you praised) confirmeth that the Popes, bestowing the Church-livings so, do that they ought not: your own conscience, M. Hart, and your authors judgement should move you to confess their supremacy in spiritual things to be usurped, no less, then I have showed it to be in temporal. But if perhaps you will not grant so much yet, suspending your sentence till the chapters following, whereto you refer us: the third and last point, that they erred in office, is proved notwithstanding even by that you grant. And therefore you say that only this is it which you go about to defend in them, that because of Christs promise, of building his church upon that rock; and prayer also that their faith should not fail; they never erred in judgement, or definitive sentence. Wherein, being driven by force of evident truth from your main distinction, that the Pope may err in person, not in office; as a private man, not as Pope: you retire from all the wards of your castle into the cellar as it were, and say that in a corner of his office he never erred; but otherwise in office and every part thereof he hath.
As since Quéene Maries dayes one of your best Popes, Pius the fifth, hath shewed: bwho hath excommunicated, yea, 1deposed also our gratious Quéene Elisabeth; and c