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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Rainoldes. The poor ship of Christ hath made almost shipwreck upon this rock of yours. I have calready proved, that the word petra, which you translate a rock, doth signify in Christs speech, a stone, not a rock. Howbeit rock, or stone, it maketh no difference to the sayings of the Fathers, which you allege, concerning it. For whether they meant a stone, as it is properly; or a rock, as it may be they did, (at least S. dAustin ▪) through doubtfulness of the word: they meant not to build the Papacy thereby. Wherefore if you think that the name of stone either hath not so great advantage for your purpose, or doth not yield so fully the meaning of the Fathers: I am content (with out prejudice to that which I have spoken touching the right sense thereof in Christs speech) to use your rock in stead of it.
Rainoldes. The poore shippe of Christ hath made almost shipwracke vpon this rocke of yours. I haue calreadie proued, that the word petra, which you translate a rocke, doth signifie in Christes spéech, a stone, not a rocke. Howbeit rocke, or stone, it mak•th no difference to the sayings of the Fathers, which you alleage, concerning it. For whether they meant a stone, as it is properly; or a rocke, as it may be they did, (at least S. dAustin ▪) through doutfulnesse of the worde: they meant not to build the Papacie therby. Wherfore if you thinke that the name of stone either hath not so great aduantage for your purpose, or doth not yéelde so fully the meaning of the Fathers: I am content (with out preiudice to that which I haue spokē touching the right sense thereof in Christes spéech) to vse your rocke in steede of it.
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