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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. To say that holy orders given by a Bishop, be he never so wicked, are void, and of no force: it is an error in faith, I grant. But this of Luitprandus is denied by lSigebert, that he ordained them again whom he deprived.
Hart. To say that holy orders giuen by a Bishop, be he neuer so wicked, are voide, and of no force: it is an errour in faith, I graunt. But this of Luitprandus is denyed by lSigebert, that he ordeined them againe whom he depriued.
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Rainoldes. whether he ordained them again, or no: it maketh not the matter. Though, by mthe Council in which John the ninth condemned Stephen and his Council, it seemeth rather he did, at the least some of them. For there 1new ordeininges are namely forbidden, and matched with 2new baptizinges. Which, if Stephen had not offended therein as the Donatists did, why should it be so touched? But whether he ordained them again or no: he decreed that which your selves acknowledge to be an error in faith; & he decreed it in a Council.
Rainoldes. whether he ordeined them againe, or no: it maketh not the matter. Though, by mthe Councell in which Iohn the ninth condemned Stephen and his Councell, it séemeth rather he did, at the least some of them. For there