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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. See: as the Jewish Rabbins. You have inured your mouth to such venomous speeches·
Hart. Sée: as the Iewish Rabbines. You haue inured your mouth to such venemous spéeches·
Rainoldes. Beware: or else through my side you will wound your friend. For qBishop Peresius, your chiefest patron of traditions, doth prove them solemnly by this point of the Jewish Rabbins and the Cabala. Neither is the proof unfit, if it be weighed. For as they pretend this ground for the Cabala, that it openeth the hidden meaning of the scriptures: so do you for traditions. And as rthey in process of time brought in doctrine contrary to the scriptures, under pretence of traditions: so do you with your Cabala. And as Cabalists among the Jews do call them 3scripture-men (by way of reproach) who cast off traditions and cleave to scriptures only: so do traditionists among you reproach us with 2the same term. Yea sLindan, and tPrateolus, do note it for a special heresy. But (to leave this venomous speech) ⟨p. 457⟩it is manifest that you renounce the scripture for proof of any title, which you lay claim to by tradition. For scripture is written; tradition, unwritten. Wherefore, if by tradition you mind to prove the Popes supremacy; you must acknowledge first that it cannot be proved by scripture. If you be not willing to acknowledge that: I must debar you from tradition.