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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Well enough as you shoot it. For although the Lord hath planted the writings of the Fathers, as trees; in his Church, as in a Paradise; whereof there may be made good shafts; blessed is the man that hath his quiver full of them, they shall not be confounded but they shall destroy their enemies in the gate: yet not all the shafts, which you do use of theirs, are good; kyour fletchers (at whose hands you take them upon trust) do mar them in the making, that I may justly call them rather bolts of Papists, then shafts of the Fathers. Who, if they were alive, might say to you in like sort, as did a Poet to Fidentinus: This book (Sir Fidentinus) which thou dost read, is mine: But thou, by reading it amiss, beginnest to make it thine.
Rainoldes. Well enough as you shoote it. For although the Lord hath planted the writings of the Fathers, as trees; in his Church, as in a Paradise; whereof there may be made good shaftes; blessed is the man that hath his quiuer full of them, they shall not be confounded but they shall destroy their enimies in the gate: yet not all the shaftes, which you do vse of theirs, are good; kyour fletchers (at whose handes you take them vpon trust) doo marre them in the making, that I may iustly call them rather bolts of Papistes, then shafts of the Fathers. Who, if they were aliue, might say to you in like sorte, as did a Poet to Fidentinus: This booke (Sir Fidentinus) which thou doost reade, is mine: But thou, by reading it amisse, beginst to make it thine.
- kStapleton, Torrensis, Canisius, & the rest of the Popish Rabbins.
Hart. Will you promise then to yield unto the Popes supremacy, if I prove it by the sayings and judgement of the Fathers alleged and applied rightly.
Hart. Will you promise then to yelde vnto the Popes supremacie, if I proue it by the sayings and iudgement of the Fathers alleaged and applyed rightly.