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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Whither it be manifest, or no; is not the question: but whither the speeches be like in show of words, the rock was Christ, this is my body. Or, to come nearer to your own example and proof of that point: Christ saith of himself that yhe is true bread: and, zmy flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. True and, indeed: these terms are more pregnant for a real presence, then that of Christs body. Yet if you say that Christ is bread, really; and his flesh, meat; and his blood, drink: you may as well say, that he is really aa vine; and his disciples bbranches really, and other such real either blasphemies or follies.
Rainoldes. Whither it be manifest, or no; is not the question: but whither the spéeches be like in shew of wordes, the rocke was Christ, this is my bodie. Or, to come néerer to your owne example and proofe of that point: Christ saith of himselfe that yhe is true bread: and, zmy flesh is meate indeede, and my blood is drinke indeede. True and, indeede: these termes are more pregnant for a reall presence, then that of Christes bodie. Yet if you say that Christ is bread, really; and his flesh, meate; and his blood, drinke: you may as well say, that he is really aa vine; and his disciples bbranches really, and other such reall either blasphemies or follies.