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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Much. For if they lived and did appear before the jury, first, they should be sworn to say the truth, and all the truth, and nothing but the truth. Whereby they might be moved both to speak more warily, and to inform the jury more throughly, then they have done. Next, it would be easier to examine them of their age, their estate, the circumstances of their persons; of their speeches, the meaning, the occasion and cause thereof. Which all are helps to find out the truth of things in controversy. Thirdly, if it appeared by examination, that either for their persons, or for their speeches, they are unworthy of credit: then it should be lawful to except against them. A liberty, which nlaw doth grant against witnesses, if there be cause of just exception. Yet you perhaps (as your men are wont) would make outcry, if I should use it against them who are dead and absent. Wherefore unless the jury do supply that by wisdom and equity, which wanteth in the course of trial, by reason that the witnesses whom you will bring are not alive: they may be deceived by names and shows of witnesses, and thereby give a verdict which shall prove no verdict. For verdict is a speech of verity.
Rainoldes. Much. For if they liued and did appeere before the iury, first, they should be sworne to say the truth, and al the truth, and nothing but the truth. Whereby they might bee moued both to speake more wa•ily, and to enforme the iury more throughly, then they haue doon. Next, it would be easier to examine them of their age, their estate, the circumstances of their persons; of their spéeches, the meaning, the occasion and cause thereof. Which all are helpes to finde out the truth of thinges in controuersie. Thirdly, if it appeered by examination, that either for their persons, or for their speeches, they are vnworthie of credit: then it should bee lawfull to except against them. A libertie, which nlaw doth graunt against witnesses, if there be cause of iust exception. Yet you perhaps (as your men are wont) would make outcrye, if I should vse it against them who are dead and absent. Wherefore vnlesse the iury doo supply that by wisedome and equitie, which wanteth in the course of tryall, by reason that the witnesses whom you will bring are not aliue: they may be deceyued by names and shewes of witnesses, and thereby giue a verdict which shall proue no verdict. For verdict is a speech of veritie.