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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. That was the heresy of the Millenaries, as they are called. Howbeit in the Fathers, though it were an error, yet it was no heresy.
Hart. That was the heresie of the Millenaries, as they are called. Howbeit in the Fathers, though it were an errour, yet it was no heresie.
Rainoldes. I do not say it was an heresy. I say that they mistook the meaning of the scripture: which you can not deny. Yea some times, when they neither mistook the words, nor the meaning, yet they taught amiss out of it. As, that iGod created the world in six days, they understood it rightly. But to conclude thereof that the world should last but six thousand years, because kone day is with the Lord as a thousand years, & a thousand years as one day: this was an oversight. For if that were true, which they did gather of those words: then might we know lthe times, whereof our Saviour saith that it is not for man to know them. And upon this reason S. mAustin doth reprove that fancy of six thousand years, as rash and presumptuous.
Rainoldes. I doo not say it was an heresie. I say that they mistooke the meaning of the scripture: which you can not denie. Yea some times, when they neither mistooke the words, nor the meaning, yet they taught amisse out of it. As, that iGod created the world in six dayes, they vnderstood it rightly. But to conclude thereof that the world should last but sixe thousand yeares, because k