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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Do you call the assumption of our Lady, a fable? What impiety is this against the mother of our Lord, that excellent vessel of grace? whom xall generations ought to call, blessed. But you can not abide her praises and honours. Nay, you have abolished not only her greatest feast of her assumption, but of her conception and nativity too. So as it may be thought the devil beareth a special malice to this woman, whose seed brake his head.
Hart. Doo you call the assumption of our Ladie, a fable? What impietie is this against the mother of our Lord, that excellent vessell of grace? whom xall generations ought to call, blessed. But you can not abide her prayses and honours. Nay, you haue abolished not onely her greatest feast of her assumption, but of her conception and natiuitie too. So as it may bee thought the diuell beareth a special malice to this woman, whose seede brake his head.
Rainoldes. It may be thought that ythe devil when he did strive with Michael about the body of Moses, (z whom the Lord buried, the Jews knew not where,) did strive athat his body might be revealed to the Jews, to the intent that they might worship it and commit idolatry. But it is out of doubt, that when he moved bthe people of Lystra to sacrifice unto Paul and Barnabas, and to call them Gods, he meant to deface the glory of God, by the too much honouring and praising of his Saints. We can abide the praises of Barnabas and Paul: but not to have them called Gods. We can abide their honours; but not to sacrifice unto them. We know that the devil doth bear a special malice both to the woman and to the woman's seed. But whether he doth wreak it more upon the seed, by your sacrificing of praises and prayers to the woman, or by our not sacrificing: let