A10345:1528
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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For though they have removed some of those stories, which Canus saith are 9uncertain, forged, frivolous, and false: yet have they done it sparingly. If they should have left out all those legend-toys: their Portesse had been like our book of common prayer, which heretics would have laughed at: and there had remained no show in a manner of the old religion, save that their service is in Latin.
For though they haue remoued some of those stories, which Canus saith are 9vncertaine, forged, friuolous, and false: yet haue they doon it sparingly. If they should haue left out all those legend-toyes: their Portesse had beene like our booke of common prayer, which heretikes would haue laught at: and there had remained no shew in a maner of the olde religion, saue that their seruice is in Latin.
- 9Incerta, apocrypha, levia, falsa.Incerta, apocrypha, leuia, falsa.
Hart. These things are impertinent, but that it pleaseth you to play the Hick-scorner with the holy Portesse. For what need you mention the writer of S. Francis life? or S. Dominikes? or the golden legend, that old moth-eaten book (as D. hHarding calleth it,) of the lives of Saints? I mind not to press you with things of later writers, but of old and ancient: whom Canus judgeth better of, then of the younger. For ihe saith of Vincentius Beluacensis, and Antoninus, that they cared not so much to write things true and certain, as to let go nothing that they found written in any papers whatsoever. But of Bede, and Gregory, he judgeth more softly: and rather excuseth them then reproveth them. Though, judge he how he listed, he was but one Doctor: and other learned men perhaps mislike his judgement, both for younger and elder writers.