A10345:1541
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. But, in what story, Pope Pius doth not say. Belike he meaneth Antoninus: of whom you know what Canus judgeth; and his judgement therein is good.
Rainoldes. But, in what story, Pope Pius doth not say. Belike he meaneth Antoninus: of whom you know what Canus iudgeth; and his iudgement therein is good.
Hart. Yet you can not deny but that Antoninus reporteth many true things. And why may not that miracle (I pray) be one of them?
Hart. Yet you can not deny but that Antoninus reporteth many true thinges. And why may not that miracle (I pray) be one of them?
Rainoldes. A lying miracle, no doubt, as eAntoninus reporteth it. For he saith that when Thomas was commanded by Pope Gregory to come unto the Council of Lions, and to bring with him that book which he had made by Pope Urban's commandment against the errors of the Grecians, whereof in that Council they were to be convicted: before he went thither, that voice was heard out of the crucifix, by certain who watched Thomas, as he was praying, on a certain night, in S. Dominikes convent-church. I say nothing here of the suspicious circumstances, the time, the night season; the place, the convent-church; the witnesses, lying in wait; the cause, to prove that which should be handled for the Pope against the Grecians in the Council. Only this I say, that seeing in that book (against the errors of the Grecians) Thomas doth falsify the writings of S. Cyril, and of above six hundred Fathers, even the general Council of Chalcedon, to make them bear witness for the Popes supremacy: the miracle pretended to have declared, as from heaven, that Thomas did well in handling so the cause of Christ, was a lying miracle lying, in respect of the form, or of the end; I mean, as either wrought by deceit, or to deceit; by deceit, if men did counterfeit