A10345:1570
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Nay stay, I pray, a little: and look ere you leap. Soft fire makes sweet malt. Your answer to the Popes whose authorities I cited doth stand on three points, according to three companies of them, as you sort them. The first, you say, are counterfeits, and most unlike those Bishops whose names they take upon them. The next avouch not the supremacy of the Pope: though they avouch more then is true, through affection. The last, through a regard of their own commodities, have spoken for them selves, and are unfit to witness in their own matter. Is not this your meaning?
Hart. Nay stay, I pray, a litle: and looke ere you leape. Soft fire makes sweete malt. Your answere to the Popes whose autorities I cited doth stand on three pointes, according to thrée companies of them, as you sort them. The first, you say, are counterfeites, and most vnlike those Bishops whose names they take vpon them. The next auouch not the supremacie of the Pope: though they auouch more then is true, through affection. The last, through a regarde of their owne commodities, haue spoken for them selues, and are vnfit to witnesse in their owne matter. Is not this your meaning?
Rainoldes. Yes. But that which you apply to the last sort, that they are unfit to witn•••• •o their own matter: I mean ⟨p. 509⟩it of the second too. And if I thought that the first (which seem to have been counterfeited in the days of the third) had been counterfeited and coined by some ambitious Pope himself: I would use the same exception to them also. But in very truth I am not of opinion that any Pope himself did coin them. It was some cook rather or horse-keeper of the Popes: if I can guess ought by the style and Latin.
Rainoldes. Yes. But that which you apply to the last sort, that they are vnfit to witn•••• •o their owne matter: I meane