A10345:1583
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Those, which then were common, might be lost since: and these, which now we have, might be then unknown. Nether is it reason that all they should be said to have written nothing, whose writings are not commonly known unto men. For even now there are (as xTurrian reporteth) in the Popes library many books of epistles of the later Popes, which contain the acts and deeds of each their Popedoms, whence they are commonly called registers: of Gregory the seventh, Innocent the third, Honorius the third, Gregory the ninth, Innocent the fourth, Alexander the fourth, Urban the fourth, Clemens the fourth, Nicolas the third, Honorius the fourth, Boniface the eighth, John the two and twentieth, Clemens the sixth, Innocent the sixth, and Urban the fifth. And these are known of few men, because they are in writing only and not printed: besides very few which Gregory the ninth, and Boniface the eighth have taken out of them, and compiled them in the Decretals to the use of Church-causes. But, if these perhaps should be set forth hereafter: would you say that they are forged, because there hath no mention of them been made by writers, nor by the Popes themselves; nay▪ which the Popes them selves perhaps never saw?
Hart. Those, which then were common, might be lost since: and these, which now we haue, might be then vnknowne. Nether is it reason that all they should be said to haue writen nothing, whose writings are not commonly knowne vnto men. For euen now there are (as xTurrian reporteth) in the Popes librarie manie bookes of epistles of the later Popes, which containe the actes and déedes of each their Popedomes, whence they are commonly called registers: of Gregorie the seuenth, Innocent the third, Honorius the third, Gregorie the ninth, Innocent the fourth, Alexander the fourth, Vrban the fourth, Clemens the fourth, Nicolas the third, Honorius the fourth, Boniface the eighth, Iohn the two and twentéeth, Clemens the sixth, Innocent the sixth, and Vrban the fifth. And these are known of few men, because they are in writing •nely and not printed: besides very few which Gregorie the ninth, and Boniface the eighth haue taken out of them, and compil•d them in the Decretals to the vse of Church-causes. But, if these perhaps should be set forth hereafter: would you say that they are forged, because there hath no mention of them beene made by writers, nor by the Popes themselues; nay which the Popes them selues perhaps neuer saw?