A10345:1581
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. How strong, it may appear by that which they have put last as the strongest; even their chiefest reason, the authority of witnesses. For therein pthey conclude that the ancient Popes were not authors of those epistles, because nether Eusebius, nor Jerome, nor Damasus, do make mention of them, nor any author lightly before the time of Charles the great. Of the which argument, the former part is fond: the later, untrue. For although Eusebius and Jerome are wont diligently to note what things have been written by any great Doctor; yet not all mens writings came to their hands. As for Damasus, he writeth not so much the lives of the Popes his predecessors, as brief Chronicle-notes: what place they were born in, what kindred they came off, in what time they lived, how often they gave orders, in what year they died, and where they were buried. Wherefore it is no marvel that he noted not what epistles they wrote. Though in a written copy at Rome (which qTurrian saw) there is mention made of one of their epistles, namely of Anacletus.
Hart. How strong, it may appeere by that which they haue put last as the strongest; euen their chiefest reason, the autoritie of witnesses. For therein pthey conclude that the ancient Popes were not autours of those epistles, because nether Eusebius, nor Ierom, nor Damasus, do make mention of them, nor any autour lightly before the time of Charles the great. Of the which argument, the former part is fond: the later, vntrue. For although Eusebius and Ierom are wont diligently to note what thinges haue béene writen by any great Doctor; yet not all mens writings came to their handes. As for Damasus, he writeth not so much the liues of the Popes his predecessours, as briefe Chronicle-notes: what place they were born in, what kinred they came off, in what time they liued, how often they gaue orders, in what yeare they died, and where they were buried. Wherefore it is no maruaile that hee noted not what epistles they wrote. Though in a writen copie at Rome (which qTurrian saw) there is mention made of one of their epistles, namely of Anacletus.