A10345:1586
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Then have the Centuries in this place of witnesses a very strong proof, that (about the time of Jerome and Eusebius) these epistles were not in the Popes library. For there is no mention made of them at all either in ythe Council of Carthage, or of Africa: in which the Pope endeavouring to show that appeals might lawfully be made to him, would have alleged them of likelihood, had they been extant. But this probability noted by the Centuries, Turrian passeth over in silence very smoothly; where yet he maketh semblance of answering all their witnesses: belike, after Antonies precept in zTully, who wisheth men, if they be troubled with a hard argument, to say nothing to it. Howbeit all these (I grant) are but likelihoods. Notwithstanding if you add to these likelihoods of Damasus, of Jerome, of Eusebius, of the Popes them selves, this also that neither any other Father or author worthy of credit may be lightly found that hath alleged them before the time of Charles the great, about eight hundred years after Christ: it may be well thought that there was good cause why the Centuries should suspect them.
Rainoldes. Then haue the Centuries in this place of witnesses a very strong proofe, that (about the time of Ierom and Eusebius) these epistles were not in the Popes librarie. For there is no mention made of them at all either in ythe Councel of Carthage, or of Afrike: in which the Pope endeuouring to shew that appeales might lawfully be made to him, would haue all•aged them of likelyhood, had they béene extant. But this probabilitie noted by the Centuries, Turrian passeth ouer in silence very smoothly; where yet he maketh semblance of answering al their witnesses: belike, after Antonies precept in zTully, who wisheth men, if they be troubled with a hard argument, to say nothing to it. Howbeit all these (I graunt) are but likelyhoodes. Notwithstanding if you adde to these likelyhoodes of Damasus, of Ierom, of Eusebius, of the Popes them selues, this also that neither any other Father or autour worthie of credit may be lightly found that hath alleaged them before the time of Charles the great, about eight hundred yeares after Christ: it may be well thought that there was good cause why the Centuries should suspect them.