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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. It may be that the Popes of the second sort would not, of modesty; or could not, for occasions, claim their full supremacy.
Hart. It may be that the Popes of the second sort would not, of modestie; or could not, for occasions, claime their ful supremacie.
Rainoldes. You should speak more truly and Christianly of them, if you said, they thought it not to be their right. But would not, or could not, your own answer granteth that they did not claim it. Wherefore sith their supremacy implieth sovereign power over kings and Emperors, as it is defined by the last sort of Popes: the second, who were subject to the civill powers, and claimed no such sovereignty, avouched not the Popes supremacy.
Rainoldes. You should speake more truely and Christianly of them, if you said, they thought it not to be their right. But would not, or could not, your own answere graunteth that they did not claime it. Wherefore sith their supremacie implyeth soueraine power ouer kings and Emperours, as it is defined by the last sort of Popes: the second, who were subiect to the ciuill powers, and claimed no such soueraintie, auouched not the Popes supremacie.
Hart. Yet over the spiritual powers they avouched it, that is, over Bishops. And that is more then you will yield too.
Hart. Yet ouer the spirituall powers they auouched it, that is, ouer Bishops. And that is more then you wil yéelde too.