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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The likelihood and presumption is not so much of the corrector, who viewing all the notes might have left out ⟨p. 526⟩the rest too, if he had been the doer: as it is of the Censor, who suffering not the preface to pass to the print for the Popes sake, may justly be suspected that he would strain an inch farther to help the Pope. But, you say, he did it of a good mind. But good minds must learn to use good means also. At least, he should have done as Friar Surius did: who, whereas in the old edition of the Councils there were certain things noted out of Cassiodore, Marianus Scotus, and Gregory Haloander, touching the years of the Consuls who are named in the dates of those epistles of the Popes: Surius (in his new edition thereof) hath left out all those notes, oyielding this reason why he left them out, because both the thing is dark of it self, & it is made more dark and intricate by their variance; in so much that Calvin seemeth on that occasion to have rejected those epistles. In deed the Century-writers (whom Surius meant perhaps when he named Calvin) do set down that circumstance, of the year of the Consuls assigned in their dates, for a proof that they be forged: and they confirm that proof by those very notes that were set forth with the epistles. For pmany of the epistles have the names of such Consuls, as never were Consuls together, or lived not then: qas appeareth by Marianus Scotus & others, yea, even by the notes added to those epistles in the Tome of Councils. Which words might work discredit to the Century-writers with them who see the Councils in no edition but the last: for there are no such notes. And Surius, in leaving them out, hath answered well that reason of the Century-writers. Though he should have answered it a great deal better, if he had left out also the epistles them selves. For as long as they are extant: we shall not need the notes upon their dates to control them. Yet as he dealt wisely in leaving out the notes, so he showed honesty in telling men of it: that they may know there were notes before, which impaired the credit of the epistles; and if they list to see them, they may seek and find them too. But the Censor, who fell upon the notes of Contius, hath showed no such honesty. For neither hath he given any signification that he caused the preface to be left out;